Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

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Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostFri Nov 25, 2022 4:51 pm

I don’t know why. I used to be able to see clip duration before. Even when I updated to DR 18 on my PC, I could just click on a clip which would show in the first timeline window and then I could instantly see the duration. Since I just got a Mac, I downloaded DR18 and all I can see is the timecode for each clip which isn’t useful for me at all. I haven’t made any actual changes to my workflow in terms of how I record footage. In my case, I need the clip duration for example if someone from my team gives me timestamps of an interview to cut up let’s say from 2:00 to 2:30, I can’t reference that anywhere since all I can see is a long timecode. And it’s not helpful at all. Is there a setting that can change that? Please see below image as reference of what I can see now.

Please help. Thanks.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostFri Nov 25, 2022 4:58 pm

Isn't clip duration on the left side of the source viewer? You're only showing the right side.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostFri Nov 25, 2022 7:30 pm

You should be seeing this. The clip length is shown to the left of the Source viewer.
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If all your footage is timecoded they should be giving you the start and end point timecodes, then you could easily locate them with the timecode readout.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostFri Nov 25, 2022 10:48 pm

Hi,

No sorry the left side only shows the length of the clip. But when I scroll on the scroll bar, the figure doesn't change to show what current HH:MM I'm on as I move it. Please see image below. As you can the right side only shows the timecode which as I mentioned is useless for me.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 1:03 am

Seems a bit unprofessional not to give you TC for a reference.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 11:09 am

Unprofessional or not, this is how we’ve always worked and it’s easier this way for us. We’re not in a professional broadcast business dealing with multiple cameras so the need for timecode isn’t necessary. We just work clip by clip with regular timestamps. Not timecode. Is there any way to change that? DR17 had it. Why did they remove it for 18? I don’t understand.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 2:23 pm



6:46.

Please see the link above. Pay close attention to the left viewer on the right side. As he plays that clip, you can see the time stamp plays in real time. That’s how it used to be. That’s what im trying to get with Resolve 18. Please anyone help
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 2:25 pm

What your seeing is how it's always worked. It sounds like you now have media with timecode, whereas before you didn't.

Have the team review Window Dubs as standard practice. Then the presence (or lack) of timecode won't change anything.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 2:41 pm

The camera I’ve been using, including the settings, everything have been the same. There wouldn’t be new media with a different a setting without me changing it. Resolve 17 had the HH:MM feature which for some reason doesn’t show up anymore. Does anyone know how to bring it back?
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 2:45 pm

To the best of my knowledge, Resolve has always shown the timecode of the clip in the upper right of the Source Viewer.

If you can share an older and a newer clip, we can examine them.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 3:33 pm

Ok what I did was opened up one of my previous projects in Resolve 18 and clicked a random clip and each clip does start from 00:00:00:00. And when I scrub in the left viewer it does update with the current time stamp. But what baffles me is how come new footage shot with the same camera, same settings etc shows the TC?

Please see below link containing a folder of an older and newer clip for your reference. Thanks

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/75oy184x ... k3mqxgbjjb
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 3:44 pm

Check the start time of the clips you are using. Some of my source files start at 00:00:00.00 (because I setup my camera to record this way) and some of my clips use a time-of-day start time code where they appear with HH:MM:SS.FF.

In my opinion, Resolve lacks timecode display options such as 'relative' (which is what the OP is asking for). They do allow for a 'Frames' view but it would be useful to have a relative view as well (0 to clip time).
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 4:01 pm

Khaleeq96 wrote:Please see below link containing a folder of an older and newer clip for your reference. Thanks

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/75oy184x ... k3mqxgbjjb


MediaInfo shows that the new clip has Timecode, whereas the old does not.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 5:18 pm

visualfeast wrote:MediaInfo shows that the new clip has Timecode, whereas the old does not.
And that is why using Window Dubs for review is SOP. ;)
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 7:20 pm

visualfeast wrote:
Khaleeq96 wrote:Please see below link containing a folder of an older and newer clip for your reference. Thanks

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/75oy184x ... k3mqxgbjjb


MediaInfo shows that the new clip has Timecode, whereas the old does not.



I don’t understand how though, if I didn’t change any setting in the camera. Any idea how to change it back so it does NOT record TC? I have a Canon R6 DSLR camera.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 10:05 pm

Looking at the R6 manual there is no way to turn off the timecode. However, it does state that if the timecode is set to Free Run and you shoot at a high frame rate, timecode will not be recorded. Look at page 338 in the R6 Advanced User Guide. So have you changed the frame rate that you shoot at?
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 10:09 pm

Charles Bennett wrote:Looking at the R6 manual there is no way to turn off the timecode. However, it does state that if the timecode is set to Free Run and you shoot at a high frame rate, timecode will not be recorded. Look at page 338 in the R6 Advanced User Guide. So have you changed the frame rate that you shoot at?



Hi,

Yes I usually shoot in 1080p 60fps or 4k at same fps. I'll have a look later.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSat Nov 26, 2022 10:28 pm

Having looked at both clips, the older one at 25fps has no timecode whilst the newer at 60fps does. So it is not free run and high frame rate with the old clip causing the problem. Do you record in camera or to an external recorder via HDMI? If the latter then timecode going out of the HDMI can be turned off.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSun Nov 27, 2022 1:20 am

Charles Bennett wrote:Having looked at both clips, the older one at 25fps has no timecode whilst the newer at 60fps does. So it is not free run and high frame rate with the old clip causing the problem. Do you record in camera or to an external recorder via HDMI? If the latter then timecode going out of the HDMI can be turned off.


Sorry I've replaced the old clip with a newer old clip in the same folder. That is recorded in 60fps. So both old and new clips are in 60fps. Also I recorded in camera
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSun Nov 27, 2022 2:26 am

I’m not familiar with the R6– one of your files is a MP4 and the other is a MOV. Perhaps this has something to do with it. Are these both original camera files? If not can you post original camera files instead?
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSun Nov 27, 2022 3:44 am

While TC is well defined for .MOV, some NLEs have difficulties reading it in MP4.
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PostSun Nov 27, 2022 9:05 am

Never had a problem with Resolve and Canon's implementation of timecode in MP4.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSun Nov 27, 2022 10:18 am

MP4 doesn't have a timecode track like QuickTime .mov files do, but some companies use metadata fields to store a timecode value in MP4.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSun Nov 27, 2022 10:31 am

DR is normally reading that, but not every player.
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Re: Why can’t I see clip duration in timeline window?

PostSun Nov 27, 2022 12:21 pm

Ironically, the absence of a time code provides the OP with their desired behaviour. IMO there should be an option to view the time code referencing 00:00:00.00 so that you can view relative time into the clip. I would call this a feature request (and perhaps the OP will write-up a feature request in the feature request forum?).
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