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Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:03 pm
by stlmikey
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Hello

I have just notice when I import a clip the length of the clip is wrong and this is causing issue with my overlay.

Clip should be 25:03 and Resolve is showing it as 25:01

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I tested with Capcut and everything imports just fine.

Any idea what could be causing this?

Thank you

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:22 am
by Peter Chamberlain
looks like the screen shots are the same.

can you post a link to the clip?

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:02 am
by stlmikey
Peter Chamberlain wrote:looks like the screen shots are the same.

can you post a link to the clip?


Yes I notice that, only wanted to include one picture.

Using - Resolve 18.6 Studio

If use capcut everything lines up correctly, so which makes me Davini is doing something I can't figure out.

Media info from the clip .

Mediainfo

General



Format : MPEG-4

Format profile : Base Media

Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/mp41)

File size : 16.0 GiB

Duration : 25 min 3 s

Overall bit rate : 91.7 Mb/s

Frame rate : 23.976 FPS

Encoded date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Tagged date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Writing application : DJI OsmoAction4

Cover : Yes

snal : (Binary)

tnal : (Binary)



Video

ID : 1

Format : HEVC

Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding

Format profile : Main 10@L5@High

Codec ID : hvc1

Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding

Duration : 25 min 3 s

Bit rate : 89.9 Mb/s

Width : 3 840 pixels

Height : 2 160 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Rotation : 90°

Frame rate mode : Constant

Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

Bit depth : 10 bits

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.452

Stream size : 15.7 GiB (98%)

Encoded date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Tagged date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Color range : Limited

Color primaries : BT.709

Transfer characteristics : BT.709

Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Codec configuration box : hvcC



Audio

ID : 2

Format : AAC LC

Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity

Codec ID : mp4a-40-2

Duration : 25 min 3 s

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 317 kb/s

Channel(s) : 2 channels

Channel layout : L R

Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)

Compression mode : Lossy

Stream size : 56.9 MiB (0%)

Default : Yes

Alternate group : 1

Encoded date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Tagged date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC



Other #1

ID : 3

Type : meta

Format : djmd

Codec ID : djmd

Duration : 25 min 3 s

Bit rate mode : Variable

Title : DJI meta

Default : No

Alternate group : 5

Encoded date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Tagged date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC



Other #2

ID : 4

Type : meta

Format : dbgi

Codec ID : dbgi

Duration : 25 min 3 s

Bit rate mode : Variable

Title : DJI dbgi

Default : No

Alternate group : 5

Encoded date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Tagged date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC



Other #3

ID : 7

Type : Time code

Format : QuickTime TC

Duration : 25 min 3 s

Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

Time code of first frame : 11:16:11:17

Time code of last frame : 11:41:13:04

Time code, stripped : Yes

Default : No

Alternate group : 2

Encoded date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Tagged date : 2024-03-24 17:19:34 UTC

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:11 am
by Uli Plank
Probably the other software is treating it as 24 fps. DR can be set to either speed for the timeline, but only before editing a clip into it.

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:59 pm
by stlmikey
Uli Plank wrote:Probably the other software is treating it as 24 fps. DR can be set to either speed for the timeline, but only before editing a clip into it.



I tried setting Project Manager to 30fps with no change. Is there something else I can try?

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:22 am
by Peter Chamberlain
Checking the source clip, the time matches the duration your asking about if you set the rate to 24fps.

In this matter, Resolve is displaying the fractional timecode duration, 23.976 time, in the same manner as other editors and QT player, different to the absolute time shown in Media info.

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:44 am
by stlmikey
Peter Chamberlain wrote:Checking the source clip, the time matches the duration your asking about if you set the rate to 24fps.

In this matter, Resolve is displaying the fractional timecode duration, 23.976 time, in the same manner as other editors and QT player, different to the absolute time shown in Media info.



How can I fix this so Clip A and Clip B match up with Davinci?

EDIT: I think I figured it out.. Not sure if I did it right I increase the clip to 24frames on the timeline.. If there easier way please let me know.

Thanks

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:35 am
by Uli Plank
What is your final delivery?
You can conform your clips all at the same time by selecting them and changing the Clip Attributes. Easier than fiddling around in the timeline.

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:16 pm
by stlmikey
Uli Plank wrote:What is your final delivery?
You can conform your clips all at the same time by selecting them and changing the Clip Attributes. Easier than fiddling around in the timeline.



Thanks! I overlooked that :)

Re: Imported Clip - length is wrong

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:34 am
by Marc Wielage
stlmikey wrote:How can I fix this so Clip A and Clip B match up with Davinci?

Go into Clip Attributes and make sure both clips have the exact same speed. If your project is 24fps, make them both exactly 24.00fps. If your project is 23.98fs (which is more common), make them both exactly 23.98fps.

These differences in speed are what we've traditionally called "drop/non-drop" problems, which basically refer to how individual frames are counted in time. It can make a huge different with long shows and when you have to precisely sync picture with sound: if one is drifting 1 or 2 frames every minute, eventually it winds up to be an enormous difference over time.

BTW. for anybody new to Resolve Editing, be sure to go through the free textbook & training videos:

"The Editor's Guide to DaVinci Resolve 18"

available on Blackmagic's Training website:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... e/training

You'll find these are enormously helpful, even if you have experience with other editing & color platforms. There's tons of shortcuts covered, which will help cut precious minutes off every session. The 4204-page manual is good as well, but the textbooks present it in a much more concise way. (Coming soon is a Resolve 18.6 training update.)