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Im trying to figure out the best workflow for me, do you have a suggestion?
So-
I record a livemusic session with 4 cameras, each camera has audio on, and in one of the cameras I have a good audio quality recording input straight out from the audiomixer,, mixing the stagesound for the band.
Ok-
In my postproduction I of course want to work with the quality of the clips (color grade and so on) and I also want to make a audio mix from one of the cameras audio (room recording) and the dry recording straight out from the mixer.

How do I start/ proceed?
I want to edit to whole project with the multicamclip function - but before syncing and starting to edit a final version shall I first work with every separate clips editing (color grading, zoom and so on)? Shall I first edit the final audiomix before multicamediting and shall I then after syncing all the clips (video & audio) delete all the other audio clips
Has anyone a good suggestion for this?
/Erik

I've done a lot of multi-camera edits over the years, and my preferred method is to stack all the cameras up on the timeline - eg on 4 layers in your case.

It's easier if you place the widest camera view on the top layer, so you then always have a good overview of the scene, and from this 'master shot' you will often intuitively know which of the other 3 camera angles you want to use at any given point.

Then do a base grade so that the cameras match each other well. This is easier before you start cutting up the clips.

The audio is a 2nd guide to make sure you've got all the cameras in sync, but then you can switch the extra audio tracks off / or delete them. If you have some editing to do on your audio mix, then my preference is to get this sounding nice - just because it makes the visual edit more fun, rather than listening to messy sound while editing. But other people are happy with rough audio and finesse the mix later.

Then the edit is a case of both taking away the top layers to reveal the cameras below, and you can also pull clips from the lower cameras, and stack them on top (ie put the clips on video layers 5,6,7 etc).

And you'll probably also want to further grade some of the clips, depending on the action.

It's usually quite a fluid process, and the logic for each particular performance soon presents itself.

Other people may prefer setting up a Multicam clip, but I prefer to have everything stacked up on a single timeline where I can see it all and push & pull it around.

paultom wrote:Other people may prefer setting up a Multicam clip, but I prefer to have everything stacked up on a single timeline where I can see it all and push & pull it around.

Yeah, that's a very traditional way of working that people did for 20+ years. It can still work, if that's a comfortable workflow for your project.

Yes I have found the possibility in da vinci for multicam editing very quick and good.
Im pretty new to Da Vinci tools and want to find a modern, quick and qualityworth way to work with my recordings.
So Marc what do you suggest? In short ..
Cheers /Erik

Here's the overall approach I would take.

For Color, I would start with this in the Project Settings (making sure the clips were assigned the correct Input Color Space in the bins).



For Edit:

1. Create the Multicam using only camera clips
2. Add the Multicam to a timeline.
3. Add whatever audio you want to hear under the Multicam and sync it up.
4. Disable the audio portion of the Multicam.

Work across the pages in order. Media, Edit, Fusion, Color, Fairlight, Delivery - done!

paultom wrote:.

Then the edit is a case of both taking away the top layers to reveal the cameras below, and you can also pull clips from the lower cameras, and stack them on top (ie put the clips on video layers 5,6,7 etc).

And you'll probably also want to further grade some of the clips, depending on the action.

It's usually quite a fluid process, and the logic for each particular performance soon presents itself.

Other people may prefer setting up a Multicam clip, but I prefer to have everything stacked up on a single timeline where I can see it all and push & pull it around.

yeah this is a very simple and straightforward tactic, which just works. I think the advantage of a multicam setup is that it is so much quicker to quickly see/select/audition the different angles. and i think it's always better for the end result to be able to work very quickly. It's a little bit more work prior, but eventually, it pays off bigtime. It also depends on how many angles you have of course. But even with just three i think i would always go for the multicam setup.

But a multicam setup can be more complex for your system/resolve to handle. Watch out for audio stutters if you work with audio that comes from multicam/compound clips. It's not completely reliable. (which is why jim adviced to disable the audio portion of the multicam)