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Cache crash

PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:41 pm
by Robin Doelly
Although Beta 3 is moving forward ..I still that cache is kinda broken.
I find that with a Fusion comp on the timeline .. if I have cache on and then try to amend or update the composite then Davinci will crash (every time and immediately).
I'm also finding that if I connect nodes AFTER the media out node (do just guides and things for viewing)... then Davinci will crash.
Currently I have to work with caching switched off

Robin

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:07 pm
by Jim Simon
I tried a Fusion title and can't duplicate the issue. It just works.

Studio 20b1 for Windows.

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:53 am
by waltervolpatto
Record your system gui and upload a video

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:45 am
by Robin Doelly
Hi Walter
Here is a screen recording which shows the issue.

https://f.io/WvquKks6

it is 100% repeatable. It also is not project dependent, any project.
I have Render Cache on Smart
System is running on Windows 11

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:56 pm
by Robin Doelly
Just to add to this ... it is not reserved to the Text tool. It is broken on all Render updates below a rendered cache.
This caught me out hard last night.
I had a whole longform film rendered cache - all good. Then for some exports I needed to tweak gamma - so I add an adjust clip on the top video track put a CST node on the grade ..it quickly re-renders .. all ok until I start doing small fixes and updates on clips on video 1 ... the cache doesn't rebuild, in fact I can delete clips from the bottom layer so that effectively you have black / nothing with a CST adjust clip on say video 2 ...the picture is still there, Davinci plays the cache of clips that no longer exist on the timeline ... spooky!
Meanwhile 5:30am by the time I had that job played out and done :(

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:28 pm
by Jim Simon
I tried it with a regular Title and there I did see the issue. Fusion titles seem to work fine.

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:27 pm
by Robin Doelly
I think the issue is cache built on top of cache.

So if you have a clip with a big grade of large RAW that will cache in 'Smart cache' ... then put a regular title on top or adjustment clip that then will build new cache on top .. it works the first time but doesn't realise the need to re-cache if a change happens below.

It worked ok in V19 so I'm fairly sure that it is a Beta 20 thang. I just want it to get on the list for V20.1 as it has a big impact for me

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 12:02 pm
by Robin Doelly
Any takers out there from BMD on this on?

It is quite an awkward issue for me and of course no support on a beta which is fair enough.
If tried different cache formats (as I've seen that in the past) but makes no difference.

It is very persistent - so like the text amend on top of cache is a great example as easy to see and 100% repeatable, also an adjustment effect on top of cache.

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 2:34 pm
by Jim Simon
BMD will frequently not comment on the issues we report for Beta versions. Fixes just show up in some future update.

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 11:46 pm
by Robin Doelly
Fair enough - just it would be so great to know if they see the issue - otherwise a huge about of time is spent wondering if this is some specific local issue that I should maybe delete all davinci software and caches and try a fresh install.
A simple 'we are aware of the issue, and it will be addressed in a future update' would be so helpful.
What concerns me is that there is no traffic on this problem, and I would expect people to be noticing it. There was a bug fix sort on this in beta 2 but it doesn't seem to have fixed the issue.
If it is a bug .. then cool - I'll sit tight and keep working around it because the gains of V20 are so useful. However, if it isn't a bug .. then I need to get busy trying to clear the issue on my system.

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2025 11:53 pm
by kinvermark
Cache issues are long-standing, and there are many threads complaining. No chance BM are unaware of this.

You can limp-along for now (with the rest of us :D ) by trying render-in-place or quick exports to better view your footage. Sometimes putting an adjustment clip above (or fusion clip set to background mode) does the trick... but not always.

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2025 12:59 am
by Jim Simon
Robin Doelly wrote:If it is a bug .. then cool - I'll sit tight.
There ya go. ;)

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2025 12:25 am
by Robin Doelly
Great ... I'll sit tight and keep on using my workarounds rather than launch a voyage of probably pointless system changes.
Thanks then

Re: Not recognising the need to rebuild cache

PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2025 9:50 pm
by Robin Doelly
Brilliant !
Well done to the team on responding to this with a fix in Beta 3

Great