Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

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Christian Saure

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Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

PostWed Aug 30, 2017 7:29 pm

Hey there,

couple of times I had a strange color shift in Phantom Cine files. The issue appears in 14 and 12.5 aswell. Comfort Silverstack has the same interpretation of the material, but in premiere it looks more like the RAW I expected.
It is seen, that the blue channel is is really low, sometimes that low, that you only can see it, if you desaturated the footage by 99%.
I imported the files in many ways, even the log1 or log2 mode is not the solution
Does someone experienced the same?

I attached screenshots and I am happy for any kind of help to understand where is the difference in interpreting the material.

Thanks Chris

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Grade Bypass; Phantom Flex 4K import Look
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Re: Resolve and Phantom Plex 4K Color Shift

PostWed Aug 30, 2017 7:34 pm

Probably you camera is using profile which is newer than SDK in Resolve, so it's not properly handled/recognised.
If manual Log settings don't help not much what you can do, except put it as bug/limitation, so BM can try to fix.
Try also free Scratch Play and check how it handles it.
It definitely Premiere which is more correct (or simply correct).
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Re: Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

PostThu Aug 31, 2017 1:27 am

Which model Phantom are the clips from?
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Re: Resolve and Phantom Plex 4K Color Shift

PostThu Sep 07, 2017 12:34 pm

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:Probably you camera is using profile which is newer than SDK in Resolve, so it's not properly handled/recognised.
If manual Log settings don't help not much what you can do, except put it as bug/limitation, so BM can try to fix.
Try also free Scratch Play and check how it handles it.
It definitely Premiere which is more correct (or simply correct).


Thank you, I tried Scratch Play and it shows the kinda same issue. The colors are more magenta there.

Peter Chamberlain wrote:Which model Phantom are the clips from?


The Camera is the Phantom Flex4K by Vision Research. Can I give you some more information?

Thanks

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Re: Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

PostThu Sep 07, 2017 1:03 pm

Yep, same issue. It's imported over CSP plugin, which is not alway accurate.
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Re: Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

PostSat Aug 04, 2018 2:50 pm

Was this never addressed in 14.3?
Is it an issue in 15.b7?
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Re: Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

PostFri May 24, 2019 2:15 pm

Hi,

I had the same problem recently, any solution since ?
I'm in 15.3.1.

Thanks you !
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Re: Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

PostThu Nov 26, 2020 12:37 pm

Any update about this topic ?

I own a flex4k and have been using Resolve extensively to read raw .cine files.
I don't remember having any colour shift in Resolve, and the only time I had chance to use silverstack, files appeared also unshifted.

Did someone try the colour managed mode ? Does it change something ?

I assume that raw tab is correctly set, since it DOES work even when grading is bypassed...
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Re: Resolve and Phantom Flex 4K Color Shift

PostMon Jan 25, 2021 1:32 pm

Hello,

This problem just happened to me today.
I thought it was solved because I didn't have it since a long time ago.

So my footage appeared like this :

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But really it should look like this :

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I'm using Davinci Resolve Studio 16.8.2,
I'm on MacOs Mojave 10.14.6 / AMD FirePro D700 6 Go / 2,7 GHz 12-Core Intel Xeon E5.
The footage seems to be Phantom (I don't know for sure which cam) in .cine 2048x1152.

I'm going to make some test with the Color Management but if you have any idea !

Thank you !

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