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Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:27 pm
by Rignold Haywood
Hi

I have a Premiere project with 388 seperate edits(timelines) in it. What is the quickest way to get them all in Resolve 14?
Thanks

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:41 am
by Rignold Haywood
Anyone?

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:31 am
by Glenn Sakatch
You seem to be asking for a "magic" solution to an uncommon (AFAIK) workflow.

You can either output 388 xmls or create a master timeline will all your sequences it it and export 1 xml and then break them up once you get into Resolve.

I don't think you will find anything any more magic than that.

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:50 am
by Tero Ahlfors
You can select all your sequences and then export one XML that has them all. You'd still need to bring in all 388 (holy crap) sequences in Resolve.

Easiest way would be hiring and assistant.

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:06 am
by Peter Chamberlain
Rignold Haywood wrote:Hi

I have a Premiere project with 388 seperate edits(timelines) in it. What is the quickest way to get them all in Resolve 14?
Thanks



Can I assume you have used one 'timeline' for each scene?
If not, how did you get to 388 timelines for one project?

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:11 am
by Rignold Haywood
Tero Ahlfors wrote:You can select all your sequences and then export one XML that has them all. You'd still need to bring in all 388 (holy crap) sequences in Resolve.

Easiest way would be hiring and assistant.

Thanks Tero this is how I'm currently working it. I was hoping there was another way. I understand it's not a standard workflow but these are individual clips that will end up in an app. Thank you again.

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:12 am
by Rignold Haywood
Peter Chamberlain wrote:
Rignold Haywood wrote:Hi

I have a Premiere project with 388 seperate edits(timelines) in it. What is the quickest way to get them all in Resolve 14?
Thanks


Yes Peter 1 timeline per scene.
Can I assume you have used one 'timeline' for each scene?
If not, how did you get to 388 timelines for one project?

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:16 am
by Peter Chamberlain
I can only suggest in premiere making a new timeline and put the scenes into that timeline to make a single timeline for export to Resolve.

Resolve considers timelines to be just that, timelines, or reels of timelines for large projects. Making a timeline per scene is not practical in Resolve and so compound clips are often used to manage scenes.

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:22 am
by Rignold Haywood
Ok so I will have to import them individually. They have to be individual at some point. Delivery will be 388 individual files.

Is there perhaps anyway to add all 388 edits to the render queue in Resolve, or is that a 1 by 1 process as well?

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:23 pm
by Pavel Lavrov
Rignold Haywood wrote:Ok so I will have to import them individually. They have to be individual at some point. Delivery will be 388 individual files.

Is there perhaps anyway to add all 388 edits to the render queue in Resolve, or is that a 1 by 1 process as well?

On render queue you can select to render clips as individual files (from one timeline) so you would only need one timeline. Just group/nest smaller clips if you want them to export as one...

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:35 am
by PeterMoretti
Peter Chamberlain wrote:...
Resolve considers timelines to be just that, timelines, or reels of timelines for large projects. Making a timeline per scene is not practical in Resolve and so compound clips are often used to manage scenes.

Breaking up a show into scenes is a pretty common approach. "You work on this scene and I work on that one." And the only way to do that easily is to use a different timeline per scene. Editors do this a lot.

Not only does it make it easier from a breaking up the work perspective, but it keeps my scene from screwing up anything later (or earlier) in the cut. With the reality of today's timeline where there are multiple video tracks and an insane amount of audio tracks, the risk of screwing up something down stream is very high.

And each of those timelines are going to have different versions. Quickly you wind up with a lot of timelines, with some combination that you want to string together.

Editors are now frequently required to have temporary foley, nat sound, music, sfx all mixed at even *7.1* plus vfx, speed changes, split edits which all add to the track count. Media Composer's sync locks does a pretty good job of keeping things from getting out of hand, but even then one scene per timeline is frequently done. And with no comparable sync lock feature, it can at times be *very* uncomfortable working in one timeline in Resolve.

So nested timelines, IMHO, should be improved upon in Resolve. For example, their waveforms should show on the Fairlight Page. And there should be a way to ripple through to the master timeline changes made in the nested timeline including automatically expanding or contracting the length of the nested timeline in the master timeline. For example, if I edit timeline_1 which adds 40 seconds to it, there should away to update timeline_master so those 40 seconds are ripple-added to timeline_master.

I know you guys have a lot of work to do. ;) One of the things that's been hurting Media Composer for a years now is Premiere's tabbed timeline display. Not the same as rippling like I mentioned above, but it does point to the fact that multiple timelines has become very accepted.

Anyway, good luck with all of this.

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:34 am
by Tero Ahlfors
A basic TV show probably isn't split into 400 different timelines though.

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:25 pm
by Mikado
Hello - Did you find a solution?

I just posted this:

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=129957

Hello - I have a fairly simple FCP7 project that I need to import into Resolve. All audio. Several edited timelines arranged in bins. My media (219 radio shows) is in one external Finder bin.

I've tried bringing in all my media files (219 files) into the media pool, then importing the project XML that I created in FCP7. Result: I get one (seemingly random) timeline, with a working audio file.

Is there a way to bring everything in at once, arranged in the proper bins? I can't find anything in the tutorials or manual specifically on this.

As a side note, I imported the same XML into FCPX with the 7toX app. Flawless. All the edited timelines in their bins. So I know it works. I'm just now upgrading from FCP7 and I'd prefer to use Resolve for many reasons (cost, more friendly workflow etc.).

Can anyone walk me through the import process?

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:41 pm
by Mel Matsuoka
It would definitely be nice if Resolve were able to let you selectively import all the timelines in a single XML, e.g. using a checkbox list, rather than doing it one at a time.

Re: Multiple Premiere timelines

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:43 pm
by Mikado
Indeed.