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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:32 pm
by terahz
Pixelslayer wrote:
denydz wrote:Yeah, the free version has it's limitations.
But once you manage to install on linux, you will have more power available just for DR than on windows ;)

Thanks for the thought, but could you expand on that? I know Resolve is supposed to use the GPU for some functions, but I've heard varying claims on what exactly the free version can use the GPU for and how much acceleration I can expect. And what does the Linux version leverage better than the Windows or Mac versions?


If I'm not mistaken, the free version has no limitations as far as GPU acceleration except for Deliver - where you export your final file. 264/265 is not supported in the free version on Linux, and encoding is only supported in Studio if you have nVidia GPU. This means, with AMD GPU, you will have to export to something like DNxHD (which will be OpenCL accelerated) and then use ffmpeg (x264) to make your final 264 encode - which will likely be better final result anyway.

AAC (phones, gopros etc) is also not supported on linux at all.

I don't think it is true to state that you will get faster Linux performance in Resolve. Puget Systems' DR14 tests show that they are pretty much on par, overall (I'm not allowed to post urls, but you can easily google it)
As a reference, I use Resolve Studio on CentOS 7 with AMD GPU (Radeon VII).

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:50 am
by Seth Goldin
Are you all having trouble with ELRepo’s package for `kmod-NVIDIA.x86_64`, which is for 430.14?

Running into some sort of weird issue, in which because Xorg is 1.20, the package referencing 1.19 somehow doesn’t work.

Can’t start `gdm` at boot. Any help would be appreciated...


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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:47 pm
by Noel Sterrett
MikeRochefort wrote:I don’t have an AMD card ...

I do, and have had no luck at all getting it to work on Linux. Oil and Water.

Mac/AMD
Linux/nVidia

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:38 pm
by Peter Benson
drpeppercan wrote:Request from a newbie both for Linux and DS:
Could someone confirm which way would be the smoothest way to install DS in CentOS, the way this thread initially instructs, or using the CentOS with DS DVD?
If the latter, where can I find the ISO then?
And lastly, is there a "COMPLETE & NEWBIES-PROOF" User Guide to use it?

Thanks a lot in advance,

DPC
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:17 pm
by Noel Sterrett
Piotr Wozniacki wrote:whether it would or would not make sense to replace Windows 10 with CentOS linux.

The short answer is yes. If you've been around that long, you can't help realize Unix/Linux/Irix/Xenix/etc. has also been around a long time and unlike some of us will be around for a long time to come.

This is not due to expensive marketing. It is because it is far and away the most elegant OS thus far invented by human beings.

And it's not just elegant, it is lean, mean, open, stable, and powerful all at the same time. And by the way, it is also free! Not just fee from cost, but free from others deciding when you will upgrade and what you will have to agree to in order to do that. You can actually own your computer. And if you like, you can also browse the source code, along with millions of others, to see that everything you do is not being recorded.

In the broader sense you are part of a community. One that is not driven entirely by money.

So by all means, do it. Get your feet wet with CentOS, and then try a more up to date version with a huge selection of pre-compiled binary applications like Ubuntu.

Fair winds, and following seas.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:25 pm
by Seth Goldin
Peter Benson wrote:
drpeppercan wrote:Request from a newbie both for Linux and DS:
Could someone confirm which way would be the smoothest way to install DS in CentOS, the way this thread initially instructs, or using the CentOS with DS DVD?
If the latter, where can I find the ISO then?
And lastly, is there a "COMPLETE & NEWBIES-PROOF" User Guide to use it?

Thanks a lot in advance,

DPC
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Here are my most up-to-date notes on installing on preparing CentOS 7.6 for Resolve from scratch: https://sethgoldin.github.io/install-da ... ve-centos/

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:36 pm
by Noel Sterrett
I just assembled a new Ryzen threadripper / X399 / nVidia system, installed Ubuntu 19.04, nVidia 430 drivers and OpenCL.

I then clicked on the Resolve 16b5 .run file, followed the prompts, and voila!

I'm not sure how it could have been less painful.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:08 am
by Richard O'Callaghan
the install was indeed painless. HOWEVER I discovered that CentOS needed updating to the tune of 900+ updates . Following installation and a restart i discover that the Nvidia drivers have been removed .. what can I do about that ?

[ there are other possible complications following these updates which I have yet to discover ]

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:28 am
by Seth Goldin
Just use ELRepo for kmod-nvidia and make sure to also install the ELRepo yum plugin.


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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:06 pm
by Noel Sterrett
Richard O'Callaghan wrote:HOWEVER I discovered that CentOS ...

This is the problem I have with CentOS. Things that require nothing more than an apt-get in Ubuntu, end up being a painful project in CentOS. Nvidia drivers are one example, but there are at least an order of magnitude more up to date applications readily available for a simple install on Ubuntu.

Cheers.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:56 am
by Marc Gasser
Did you try Fusion16 standalone with Ubuntu/Debian?

I have massive performance losings when testing against Fusion9.
And Fusion inside Resolve 16 is pretty unstable.

I think it's GPU related, of course support will not help, since they stick to their CentOS....

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:30 pm
by Noel Sterrett
Marc Gasser wrote:Did you try Fusion16 standalone with Ubuntu/Debian?

Fusion releases have worked for me on Ubuntu 18.04/19.04/CentOS on a Lenovo Y500 laptop and nothing else. Four other more powerful machines, including under CentOS, die a system trap death.

I would love to use Fusion, but it's no where near there yet, at least on Linux.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:09 pm
by Marc Gasser
@Noel Sterrett:

Thanks for the replay.
I am having hard times with Fusion16 on Ubuntu 18.04
It does not recognize my graphics car, the Fusion Console Output on top left says:

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FusionCore library not found
Warning: No usable GPU devices found.



and so rendering is very slow, still sticking to Fusion9 :-(

See also here: https://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckl ... =19&t=3272

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:43 am
by RCModelReviews
Is there anything we should be aware of... with Centos 8.0 being released next week?

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:33 pm
by Seth Goldin
RCModelReviews wrote:Is there anything we should be aware of... with Centos 8.0 being released next week?

I’m going to try to play around with it, but I wouldn’t expect it to work out of the box until BMD ships a version developed on 8. Do not attempt for production machines!


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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:52 pm
by Seth Goldin
Testing out CentOS 7.7 and everything seems great so far!

I upgraded 7.6 to 7.7 via:
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$ sudo yum upgrade


Everything seemed to go OK, but I did see this error message:
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Error! Could not locate dkms.conf file.
File: /var/lib/dkms/blackmagic/11.2a8/source/dkms.conf does not exist.


Because of the delay in getting a working Desktop Video available for CentOS 7.6, I expected that Desktop Video and/or DKMS is where'd I have a problem, if any.

However, I fired up Resolve, and the DeckLink sent video out just fine. The Desktop Video GUI app works fine, too.

So, as far as I can tell, I have Resolve 16 working perfectly on CentOS 7.7. This is for:
  • DaVinci Resolve Studio 16.0.0.060
  • CentOS Linux release 7.7.1908 (Core)
  • kernel 3.10.0-1062.el7.x86_64
  • NVIDIA driver 430.50 packaged from the ELRepo repository: 430.50-1.el7_7.elrepo
  • HP Z8 G4
  • 1x Intel® Xeon® Gold 6136
  • 48 GB (6x8 GB) DDR4-2666 ECC Registered RAM
  • 1x GeForce GTX 1080 Ti

I also fired up a timeline of some pretty typical footage I use and I rendered it to a couple of common deliverable formats, just to make sure nothing was weird. It could be my imagination, but perhaps the render speeds are even increased a bit?

This feels good enough for me. I'll be putting 7.7 into production on my other Z8s shortly.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:18 pm
by Dante Stiller
until BMD ships a version developed on 8.


Is there any rule of thumb on how long it usually takes BMD to release a compatible version after a major CentOS update? CentOS 8 is announced for Sept. 24. Three days from now.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:37 pm
by Noel Sterrett
Ubuntu 19.10 is scheduled to be released in October. It does NOT support 32 bit. Anyone know if that causes a problem for Resolve?

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:30 am
by BobDoLe
I switched from Fedora to CentOS because I couldn't get Resolve 16 to ever load for some reason. It ran great on CentOS7, but CentOS7 made me feel like I traveled back in time with all the old software versions.
I got a developers subscription (free) and threw on RHEL8 and couldn't be happier.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:23 pm
by Seth Goldin
Can we keep this thread on-topic, just for CentOS 7?

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:59 pm
by Martin Schitter
Seth Goldin wrote:Can we keep this thread on-topic, just for CentOS 7?


sure -- because BMD support will spare no pains to torture even the last one of us to become a convinced time traveler... ;)

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:30 pm
by jwamshop
But I guess a microphone will not work?
BMD refuses to comment this specific issue for some reason.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:58 pm
by linuxfreak
BobDoLe wrote:I switched from Fedora to CentOS because I couldn't get Resolve 16 to ever load for some reason. It ran great on CentOS7, but CentOS7 made me feel like I traveled back in time with all the old software versions.
I got a developers subscription (free) and threw on RHEL8 and couldn't be happier.

It works fine here on F29, Notebook with Nvidia Quadro M1000M. First I had troubles getting 16 to run (15.3.1 was fine). Removing those:
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mesa-libOpenCL
pocl
ocl-icd

And reinstalling:
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dnf --setopt=install_weak_deps=False --best install ocl-icd

did fix the startup crash for me.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:40 pm
by Eugenia Loli
BMD needs to support Ubuntu properly. That's the most popular Linux system for years now (and automatically, the also popular Mint/MX should work too). Google's internal version of Linux is based on ubuntu too. Red Hat (ie Centos) is mostly used on servers, so while it is an "industry" standard in many things, it's probably not the right focus for a video editing suite.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:10 am
by Perry Mitchell
You full time professionals can ignore this post!
As a hobby editor, I am building a dedicated Resolve machine from computer parts mostly bought from Ebay. I have an Intel mobo & Xeon processor with integrated graphics. I was keen to test these basics first since there were several used components involved. The BM linux install all went fine and proved my system good so far. Then I added a Nvidia gtx980 and it all went belly up!
To cut to the chase, I had to disable the integrated graphics and enable the GPU in the BIOS, and then reinstall linux whence it all came good. I am sure there would be ways to do this in the console but this old fart is limited to cutting and pasting linux commands!
I guess I am saying it is best to install linux with your finished hardware in place.
Next task is to add an SAS RAID controller card so I am hoping that is not going to upset things!
I also want to add a USB3 card reader so any recommendations with linux support would be appreciated. (The type that plugs into the mobo 20 pin usb3 header)
Thanks for your understanding!

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:15 am
by Richard
I installed Centos for the singlular purpose of getting DaVinci Resolve working as it was really buggy on Ubuntu. I follow this but I'm just getting a white box appearing when I open DaVinci Resolve.

How do you install this thing?

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:48 pm
by Martin Schitter
Richard wrote:... but I'm just getting a white box appearing when I open DaVinci Resolve.


i saw similar issues in the past, although it was pure black content in the window frame or player regions in may case, but i could usually work around this defects by just resizing the affected windows. this triggers a redraw event and all the effected image content immediately appeared.

i guess, the technical reasons for this behavior are most likely caused by some obscure incompatibilities of different OpenGL implementations, x11 stuff, the utilized [very old] Qt libraries or display driver peculiarities, but i never could isolate or resolve this issue in a reliable manner.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:28 pm
by roger.magnusson
When I had the same issue (white box) it was because I hadn't installed OpenCL. That was on Ubuntu Studio though.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:32 am
by Marc Gasser
With all respect,
it should not matter which Linux distro you have installed,
support will not help you when you are on Debian is just embarrassing.
(and banning Ubuntu people from this thread is......., why don't you stick another thread just below this one: "Painfull install on Ubuntu Linux LTS").

Other softwares like Blender, Kdenlive etc. work on all operating systems and all distros,
if you have good coders it is possible to write good and reliable code.
They might even charge more than 299.-- if they bring out a stable version, I would pay it (would love to see Fusion Studio 10, just with bugs fixed from v9 and RTX, Optix support for faster preview/rendering).

Besides, usually we fix bugs in every release and get more render speed, BMD makes it vice versa.
If there would be an alternative, I would switch today.

:oops:

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:25 am
by Richard O'Callaghan
may have missed this issue but I still don't know the answer !!

Having installed resolve on Centos via the BM iso successfully I find that I am encouraged to update CentOS which I do but that means that Resolve doesn't open ?

How can this be sorted ??

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:38 pm
by rhysday
I got it working in Centos8 but it wasn't painless and the instructions posted here were not 100% proper. Had to alter a few things. Also there were still issues within the software I was hoping would be working in Centos. But no dice so I am back in Debian.

Davinci detects and uses my CUDA drivers but not standalone Fusion 16.1.1 Build 18 ...Tried both stable and testing versions of Debian. And running the latest and greatest NVIDIA drivers.

Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:04 am
by Seth Goldin
rhysday wrote:I got it working in Centos8 but it wasn't painless and the instructions posted here were not 100% proper. Had to alter a few things. Also there were still issues within the software I was hoping would be working in Centos. But no dice so I am back in Debian.

Davinci detects and uses my CUDA drivers but not standalone Fusion 16.1.1 Build 18 ...Tried both stable and testing versions of Debian. And running the latest and greatest NVIDIA drivers.

This thread is for 7 but I have instructions for 8 here: https://sethgoldin.github.io/install-da ... ve-centos/


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