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I'm starting this thread as a place to comment on things I'm discovering I like about Resolve as an editor, and things I'm really missing from Premiere as an editor.

Feel free to jump in with your own comments about workflow and Resolve as an editor.



---To start off, something I'm missing from Premiere is that I could hold Shift to temporarily enable snapping I could snap to an edit, but then let go and not be in snapping mode any longer. It's a seemingly minor thing, but I'm finding myself reaching for it and wishing I had it a lot while I'm working.

I'll note other things that come up as I go through this project.

Dustin Bowser wrote:---To start off, something I'm missing from Premiere is that I could hold Shift to temporarily enable snapping I could snap to an edit, but then let go and not be in snapping mode any longer.

Do the same with "n".

Yeah the N shortcut is the same as in Premiere, but it's not something you can hold and then let go of. If I hold it it just toggles on and off and on and off.

Thanks Dustin for the report.

With Resolve, while in the edit action hit N once, it will toggle, and when the edit action is complete it toggles back automatically.

hitting N outside an edit action toggles an stays in that state.

I'm mostly looking to be able to drag the playhead and have it snap to edit points while holding, and no longer be in snapping when I let go. I just tried that via toggling N and it doesn't seem to operate that way.

Once you start the drag, hit n and let go.
It will turn the snapping on then off once you complete the action.

Another thing giving me some grief--

In the timeline, the Match frame function should prioritize clips that are selected.

It seems that no matter what is selected, the Match Frame function is only looking at the tracks with the selector toggled, and so for instance if I want to match frame a piece of music on Audio track 8, I have to untoggle all the Selector switches for every other track just to match frame that piece of audio.

I should be able to select a clip, and when I perform Match Frame it will respect my selection. This is something that occurs during an edit day about 5000 times a day.

Also, the temporary snap behavior with N doesn't seem to work when dragging a clip in from the Source monitor.

If Snap is not toggled, and I drag a clip from the Source Monitor into the timeline and tap N for the temporary Snap, it doesn't work.

Another thing I'm really really missing from Premiere is the ability to nudge a clip volume up or down with a keyboard shortcut.

In Premiere, you can select a clip, or multiple clips, and hit something like ctrl-+ or ctrl-- to increment a clips volume up or down a DB. You could do this while playing down, so you could make broad mix changes and it's incredibly fast. It has become a major part of my editing workflow.

I'm having a hard time finding a solution to increase or decrease a clip's volume nearly as fast, especially for multi-track clips that I want multiple clips to come up or down in volume all together.

I recommend you take a step back, read the following.

https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Guide ... 0999391305

Approach the task as if you are a first time editor. Instead of constantly comparing Resolve to Premiere Pro, learn what Resolve can do, and allow your work flow to change around those capabilities.

You'll find it a less frustrating approach.

What I miss is the precalculation of file sizes on the delivery page! Its a pain in....to render for a specific file size!!

Dustin Bowser wrote:In Premiere, you can select a clip, or multiple clips, and hit something like ctrl-+ or ctrl-- to increment a clips volume up or down a DB. You could do this while playing down, so you could make broad mix changes and it's incredibly fast. It has become a major part of my editing workflow.

I'm having a hard time finding a solution to increase or decrease a clip's volume nearly as fast, especially for multi-track clips that I want multiple clips to come up or down in volume all together.

How hard did you look? The manual, for example (p. 484-5)? Or under Clip>audio, where the shortcuts are provided? Or searching for shortcut commands ("audio", "increase", "decrease") in the keyboard configuration preferences?

Everyone always seems to get very defensive with these types of topic, but I think it's the wrong approach.

Dustin is being candid, and his reaction are probably similar to those of other editors. When picking up a piece of software it's not realistic do first dive into a 1300+ page manual just to make a determination if one likes it or not. You want the software to feel intuitive right away, and slowly dig deeper into the more obscure options.

I think a more open minded attitude to some of these users concerns on the part of not just Blackmagic but everyone else would go a long way toward making Resolve a top contender for professional editors.

P.S.

Same is true for Fairlight, and Fusion.

I see there is a volume increase function, so that's good to know. I'll be mapping that to a keyboard shortcut.

As to your question of how hard I looked, I sat there with the Keyboard Mapping Editor and searched every combination of words to find the function. So what it appears is that the search function of the Keyboard Mapping needs to be a more comprehensive search, finding the word in any combination.

For example, if you search "Volume" nothing shows up. Not a single command. That's obviously not true, but it makes the user feel like the command isn't there.

Kays Alatrakchi wrote:Everyone always seems to get very defensive with these types of topic, but I think it's the wrong approach.

Dustin is being candid, and his reaction are probably similar to those of other editors. When picking up a piece of software it's not realistic do first dive into a 1300+ page manual just to make a determination if one likes it or not. You want the software to feel intuitive right away, and slowly dig deeper into the more obscure options.

I think a more open minded attitude to some of these users concerns on the part of not just Blackmagic but everyone else would go a long way toward making Resolve a top contender for professional editors.

P.S.

Same is true for Fairlight, and Fusion.

I really appreciate this response and I completely agree. I don't think the right way to win over the editing market is to dig in the heels and say, "This is how we do things here". Instead, hear what other users are saying, and loving and missing about their other apps and embrace those things into Resolve. The truth is that Avid and Premiere and even FCPX have had a long longer to be battle tested as an editor.

Using it just to cut a simple thing last night, my feeling is that it has tons of potential and could really be dialed in to be a powerful tool that all editors and filmmakers could love, but there are also a lot of things that are a lot clunkier right now that have been smoothed out in the other editing apps.

Let's listen to each other with an open mind so we can all end up having the app of our dreams, which is what we all want anyway. (Or at least I do.)

Dustin Bowser wrote:I don't think the right way to win over the editing market is to dig in the heels and say, "This is how we do things here". Instead, hear what other users are saying, and loving and missing about their other apps and embrace those things into Resolve.

I think any company by necessity does both.

"This is how we do it now. Learn it."

"How would you like us to make things better?"

These are not mutually exclusive attitudes.

Definitely. I think we all agree that is happening.

The unique situation that is happening with Resolve right now however is that it is trying to make it's way into the professional editing market. And if Black Magic wants to be successful it's going to have to listen to professionals who are using other tools to do this work and make sure that those bases are all covered, otherwise they aren't going to win the market like they are hoping.

Right now a lot of editors and filmmakers are very interested in what Black Magic is doing here, including myself very much. But at the end of the day, it's really all about what is the best tool for the job.

It's a conversation that we are are all adding to. I think the point that was made a few posts back is good though, let's not turn any of this into a defensive conversation. Let's just listen and create something great.

And we are looking at the feedback. It’s how we made it to this point.
It will be how we continue to grow.

Thanks Peter!

You guys are doing an awesome job and I'm very interested in the direction you're heading. Keep rocking it! One app that allows a filmmaker to do everything at a professional level has been my dream forever.