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Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:43 am
by 2ocProductions
Not sure if this is how it should work but...
When working in a timeline:
My - & = keys which are listed as zoom shortcuts in my list (and do not have any conflicts with other commands) do not work unless I click in the inspector window?
Cheers


Resolve 15 b5
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Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:25 pm
by Peter Chamberlain
Can you change the short cut to cmd +/- and let us know if that works?

Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:11 pm
by 2ocProductions
Hi Peter,
Something is definitely weird here. I have found that all I have to do is click out of the timeline...
not just into the inspector for it to work. When I am in the timeline and I attempt to use zoom shortcuts I get character entries in the top right timecode area of my viewer. (as per attached)
I can set command - for zoom out but I cannot enter command= for zoom in, it will not let me enter it no matter what I try. I could enter shift- and shift= as shortcuts but this still functions the same incorrect way.
Interestingly with the shift shortcut combo a + character shows up in the top right timecode display of my viewer when hitting shift = but no character from the shift - enters at all.
Hope this clarifies the bug. (Just an FYI this issue occurs on my iMac at home also and both systems are running studio 15 B5)

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Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:14 am
by Peter Chamberlain
AH, The field you are changing is where timecode is entered.. so you are adding + and - to the timecode field and this is because the viewer is in focus.

If you select the timeline and use the command -/+ or what is listed in the view menu, zoom, it should work.

Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:22 pm
by 2ocProductions
Hi Peter,
As I said, "When I am in the timeline" I get this result... In fact I cannot enter anything in the timecode field at all, no matter what I try, it simply is not editable.
I also have something weird with the left and right arrow keys. I cannot nudge the CTI to the left or right by 1 frame after I have manually moved the CTI. To get this functionality back I have to select an instance then activate the inspector window then go back to the timeline, and presto I can nudge the CTI 1 frame to the left and right.
FYI the Shift arrow left and right nudges CTI by 1 second as per standard shortcuts.

I will try to make a screen capture video of this issue and my other issue with keyframes and get it to you.
Cheers
Paul

Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:52 pm
by John Paines
The time code field is not editable. Your numerical entries in the timeline show up in this field, but you can't write in it (though you can paste to it, if you have another timecode field in memory).

Even though the system will let you do so, avoid remapping zoom in/out to either - or + keys, shifted or not, other than the default of ctrl+- or ctrl+= (or +). If you can't live with the defaults, use other keys, such as PgUp and pgDn. Resolve requires plus and minus for timecode entry, to distinguish absolute from relative timecode, which is why plus signs are turning up in the timecode field when you think you're issuing a zoom command.

Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:57 pm
by Jim Simon
This, I believe, is a design flaw with Resolve. The unmodified + and - zoom keys that work fine in PP will not work in Resolve with the timeline selected as they're hard coded to timecode navigation.

There are a couple of solutions for this, both of which are used by Adobe in Premiere Pro.

1. The main keyboard + and - (technically the = and -) are used for zoom, the Numpad + and - are used for timecode entry.

2. You can perform timecode entry from the main keys by clicking on the timeline timecode first.

I do think the Adobe way is the better way on this. Single-handed, unmodified keys make the most sense for timeline zoom. And + and - are the most logical keys here.

Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:31 pm
by John Paines
If you simply must reconfigure these keys, this autohotkey script will do it:

SetTitleMatchMode, 1
#IfWinActive, DaVinci Resolve by Blackmagic Design - 15.0

=::
SendInput ^{=}
exit
-::
SendInput ^{-}
return


The "+" will still work on the main board (shift+=), for entering TC, but for the "-" you must use the numeric pad.

Re: Timeline Zoom Shortcut Bug?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:44 pm
by 2ocProductions
Thanks John for the Hotkey suggestion and your input Jim,
I had a major project that I attempted on Resolve 15 B5 and all in all I think I can keep doing jobs on it now as it seems fairly solid with respect to crashes and bugs. That being said Fusion was not featured in my workflow that much.
With the shortcut keys for zoom I have decided that I like my left hand zooming in and out while I am using the mouse as I go. I sacrificed the built in shortcuts of the Q & W keys for this job and have found it works well for the edit tab and great for colour. As you mentioned Jim the single handed approach is my preferred way of zooming, I am not a big fan of the option mouse wheel method.
Thanks again