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Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:04 pm
by AndreasOberg
Hiya,
We have filmed a lot of wildlife in windy situations with very long lenses.

I am wondering, what are our best options for stabilizing in post production? I do not get that good results with Resolve. The stabilization is fairly easy it is just x-y vibrations, no perspective correction should be needed at 1500mm. But with both the old and new stabilizer even with custom points there will usually be movements which I find a bit odd. I tried both the old and new stabilizer in Davinci.

Are there any other plugins I should check out? I saw that After Effects has a tool for correcting motion blur from camera shake which sounds interesting (if it works), they have the warp stabilizer of course that seems quite good. However I really want to avoid After Effects since it is so slow.

Best,
Andreas

Re: Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:28 pm
by Sjur Pollen
Are you on the beta? If so, Fusion has (quite good) point tracking and planar tracking.

As for plugins, I've been hearing good things about Prodad Mercalli, but have not tried it myself.

Re: Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:21 pm
by AndreasOberg
Aha, that is a good tip.
Is it reasonably fast?
Good tip about Prodad Mercalli will check it out.
/Andreas

Re: Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:03 pm
by GregAusina
You should try mocha. It has à stabilize module that is extremely accurate. It works as ofx within fusion and I think it is gpu accelerated.

Re: Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:39 am
by Uli Plank
So is Mercalli. But it's PC only (you didn't note which OS you have).

Re: Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:38 am
by Sam Steti
Greg is right, but a couple of things are to be noted :

- first, ofx performance is lower than anything else in any situation; if you're warned and ok, you won't be bothered but you have to know first;

- standalone Fusion only used OpenCL and sometimes is worst than jobs using cpu only; now that Fusion is included in R15, some issues may happen too (so the option to "use cpu only" appears in preferences too). In case you're on CUDA, don't rely on it either of course, and in general, I wouldn't rely on gpu acceleration at all for Fusion at this point.

Now, yes, Mocha is great, of course. And I love it...
Byt I personally decline using it for stabilization only because as you read here, the ofx WF is not satisfying so far and export/import is too heavy too just for stab, so I tried harder to get around inside Resolve...
I admit sometimes I don't find a reliable solution in Resolve, especially when it produces some kind of weird warp + blur in the stabilized image : this is usually the step when I know I won't find a solution in Resolve, even by tweaking options a lot...
Then... export > mocha > import :( I admit...

Re: Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:21 am
by AndreasOberg
Hiya I used PC. Don't think I will go back to Apple anytime soon.

I tried Mocha Pro standalone yesterday and got very good results. Of course exporting/importing is not amazing. As I understand you can import the tracking data to Resolve, not sure you can use it for stabilising though. Anyone tried?

All the examples I found from Mercalli was focusing on gopro etc. Does it support a more pro workflow. On the homepage they did not even mention tif/dpx file sequence export.
/Andreas

Re: Plugins for stabilization

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:52 am
by Uli Plank
There is an OFX version of Mocha.
It crashes in it's current version with beta6, but the slightly older version 5.5.2 works.