Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize data?

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Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize data?

PostTue Sep 04, 2018 12:12 am

Title says it.

Seems like there should be a way.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostTue Sep 04, 2018 9:43 am

Drag-and-drop still on to empty Corrector node?
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostTue Sep 04, 2018 3:26 pm

Dustin Bowser wrote:Title says it.

Seems like there should be a way.


The time you would need to copy the grade and go into the options to deselect the stabilize data is more or equal to the time you need to just apply the grade and just pressing the reset button on the stabilize tab.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostTue Sep 04, 2018 3:36 pm

Right click on gallery [protect sizing]

Or

Go where the nodes are, just below in the keyframe there is a drop-down menu for all/ color only/ size only.

Set to color only
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostTue Sep 04, 2018 8:13 pm

There should be a modifier key added to the Middle click to copy grades so that you can for example hold option and middle mouse click to copy a grade without the stabilizer data. I feel like 99% of the time I'd be wanting to copy a grade without bringing any tracking data along with it.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostWed Sep 05, 2018 3:09 am

Seconded.
This annoys me too in the project I'm working on right now, where I need a lot of clip to clip copying of grades.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostWed Sep 05, 2018 3:59 am

I don't get the issue: set in the keyframe "color" instead of all and in gallery right click "copy grade: preserve input sizing and you get what you need".

am i missing something?
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostWed Sep 05, 2018 7:09 am

I know how to do it that way, but depending on the project you may not want to use gallery stills, but middle-clicking on other clips. Would be handy to have a modifier key for that.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostWed Sep 05, 2018 4:26 pm

Uli Plank wrote:I know how to do it that way, but depending on the project you may not want to use gallery stills, but middle-clicking on other clips. Would be handy to have a modifier key for that.


It should work for the middle click as well.

I have to try.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

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Dustin Bowser wrote:Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize data?


Using separate nodes for grading and stabilization would be my first choice.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostThu Sep 06, 2018 5:40 am

I have been caught by this as well before, and I agree with the o.p. that Resolve should never copy over stabilization information from one shot to a different shot because there's no case where it'll be identical. In the one in a million chance the two shots are identical, I would rather cut-and-paste the stabilization info manually using the controls in the Stabilization window.

But Walter's answer should work: right-clicking in the gray area and choosing "Copy Grades: Preserve Input Sizing" should do it.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostThu Sep 06, 2018 7:22 am

Yes Mark... And I prefer your answer here more than here below for exactly the same topic I posted months ago :) :

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=67792

For those who don't want to click, to summary I suggested that "color only" was the default option in every project.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostSat Sep 08, 2018 12:37 am

Sam Steti wrote:Yes Mark... And I prefer your answer here more than here below for exactly the same topic I posted months ago :) :

https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/view ... 21&t=67792

For those who don't want to click, to summary I suggested that "color only" was the default option in every project.
I "Third" the motion to make COLOR ONLY the default copy behavior. It's nuts that this oddity persists -- even unto version 15 of DaVinci Resolve.

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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostSat Sep 08, 2018 3:02 pm

I would like to add my loud voice to those requesting that stabilize data is not copied with middle click, since lately I am continually finding clips that seem to be resized unwillingly, either this wasn't the case with previous versions or my hands aren't as steady as they used to be.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostSat Sep 08, 2018 4:05 pm

Tasio Liberakis wrote:I would like to add my loud voice to those requesting that stabilize data is not copied with middle click, since lately I am continually finding clips that seem to be resized unwillingly, either this wasn't the case with previous versions or my hands aren't as steady as they used to be.


Tasio Liberakis wrote:I would like to add my loud voice to those requesting that stabilize data is not copied with middle click, since lately I am continually finding clips that seem to be resized unwillingly... Either this wasn't the case with previous versions or my hands aren't as steady....


Hey @PeterChamberlain, if you're reading the message thread https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=ht ... are_type=t

Please refresh my memory:
Was this strange DEFAULT behavior of "COPY ALL" data present in the COLOR page of DaVinci Resolve previous versions -- even before Resolve 15?

If so, this anomaly certainly explains how lots of my clios have screwed up motion parameters, after I've performed a middle-mouse-button COPY command inside the COLOR page! Wow.

Can we *quickly* get that middle-mouse-button click COPY function DEFAULT corrected to PRESERVE SIZING via a "COLOR ONLY" default?

Many users here would be near-exuberant with gratitude!
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostSun May 24, 2020 3:31 pm

choose Mark -> Keyframe Timeline View -> Color, and only the color-related corrections will be applied.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostTue Jul 21, 2020 5:31 pm

Derrek wrote:choose Mark -> Keyframe Timeline View -> Color, and only the color-related corrections will be applied.


Thanks Derek! Still... why is this default... in 99.999% of all cases i wouldn't want the tracking data copied over...
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostTue Jul 21, 2020 5:59 pm

Dominik Gehring wrote:
Derrek wrote:choose Mark -> Keyframe Timeline View -> Color, and only the color-related corrections will be applied.


Thanks Derek! Still... why is this default... in 99.999% of all cases i wouldn't want the tracking data copied over...


I think is legacy, I too want to have [color] as default choice....
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostFri Sep 24, 2021 11:01 am

Another vote that color is the default. Copying the stabilization data by default is really a pain. Nobody does need to copy the stabilizacion data to another clip at least not the 99.99% of users
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostFri Sep 24, 2021 2:46 pm

What about tracking data for power windows or effects? You would think that those are also not relevant when copying a grade to a different clip but in the case of effects, you might still want the tracking markers, just not the tracking results.

One thought about retaining these is that having them leaves a clue that the grade expects them to be resolved. In other words, there is evidence in the copied grade that stabilization is (potentially) required as would be the case with tracking of effects or power windows...

Now I'm just rambling, lol.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostTue Oct 04, 2022 8:12 pm

2022 and still the same annoying default that makes 0 sense as previous posters already stated. wors: the setting to "color" is not saved in the workspace preset...everytime you open, you have to change it...
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostMon Apr 17, 2023 8:28 am

Yes I really think this is a pain. Also because I do a lot of the stabilisation in the edit page when editing the actual film. To select which clips do work in the edit I need to try different things and clips that end up in the final edit do so often because they can be stabilized in a good manner. Then when I start grading i do not want to change any of that, only the color.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostMon Apr 17, 2023 8:34 am

Janis Lionel wrote:2022 and still the same annoying default that makes 0 sense as previous posters already stated. wors: the setting to "color" is not saved in the workspace preset...everytime you open, you have to change it...

It never bothers me because I check the Keyframe graphic display to see if it says ALL or COLOR or SIZING first. If it doesn't say COLOR, I don't copy the node.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostMon Apr 17, 2023 10:28 am

Bumping this thread, really annoying copying color only isn't the default option. I think this is something 90% of the users will run into unknowingly and unwillingly as well. Only to find out after export al your stabilising work has been messed up after grading the project.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostThu Sep 14, 2023 3:53 pm

I can't find this dropdown under nodes for Color Only, don't see any dropdowns where is it
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostThu Sep 14, 2023 5:03 pm

Paul Fisher wrote:I can't find this dropdown... where is it
Its at far right of the Color page Keyframes panel, Paul, see below:
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It's also in the application's Mark menu > Keyframe Timeline Mode submenu.
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Re: Is there a way to copy a grade without the Stabilize dat

PostWed Feb 14, 2024 2:34 pm

Even with "color" mode selected in the keyframe graphic display, it still copies the stabilization effects, or just completely removes them. Even worse, resetting the stabilization menu doesn't do anything. I have to switch between "perspective" and "similarity" mode for it to be able to re-analyze and re-stabilize the clip. Very weird… Only solution is to grab a still for every node I like to copy. But nothing beats the efficiency of Ctrl+c - Ctrl+v.
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