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Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Oct 09, 2018 9:04 pm

Basic question, but I can't seem to find the answer on the DaVinci website. Before downloading and installing Resolve 15, I would like to know if it has the ability to burn a video to DVD and to Blu Ray?
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Oct 10, 2018 1:46 am

There is no disk authoring in Resolve, so no to both DVD and Blu Ray. You can of course compress video for burning, but building menus and loading transitions and all that is something else.

I used Apple's DVD Studio Pro back in the day -- it was great. But then people started pulling optical disks from machines and no longer created the software.

I wish I had a recommendation for you, but aside from Adobe's Encore (now also shuttered) or Vegas DVD Architect ... neither of which I've used, I'm not sure. If you're on a Mac, check out Toast.

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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Oct 10, 2018 4:22 am

interestingly enough, i was only asked last week for a dvd - haven't produced one in many years now. still had vegas dvd arch on pc so, with a few misfires (having forgotten much of using it), knocked out a 20min vid.

client came back and asked for usb of it - apparently, many of his viewers didn't have dvd drives on their computers anymore ;-)
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Oct 10, 2018 5:57 am

As others have said, no Resolve can not author DVD or Bluray, in fact it can not even output DVD or Bluray compliant files, which I beleive it should.
Had it been able to have done so, it would be very easy to quickly output a DVD or Blurays, without re-encoding, and that can be done with free open source software.
It's just another good reason that Resolve should be able output via FFmpeg.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Oct 10, 2018 11:40 am

i think resolve produces what's required for cinema and broadcast, anything else can be simply produced from any of the export formats it produces via 3rd party software.

i say this coming from vegas where trying to be everything to everyone lead to its instability and unreliability when rendering.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Oct 10, 2018 1:40 pm

I'm a big fan of TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works because of it's high quality results. I use it for converting to MP4 and DVD compliant files. It use Lanzcos scaling when downscaling for DVD and the higher quality x264 when encoding MP4. I then use DVD Architect for making DVDs or Blurays.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Oct 15, 2018 11:19 pm

Thanks for all of the responses. My daughter has a box full of Mini-DV tapes and wants them burned to DVD or Blu Ray so that she can play them without having to dig out the old camcorder. I was hoping that Resolve might be the answer, but I guess not. I will keep looking. Might have to go with a commercial product. I think Corel still makes some DVD burning software so will take a look at that.

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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Oct 15, 2018 11:29 pm

Why not just put them on a USB memory stick, you can encode the files with H.264 using an mp4 container. Every modern piece of equipment can play this format.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Oct 16, 2018 1:52 am

The reason not to use USB to replace the DV tapes is that all flash media relies on electrical current to keep it's bits straight. You start to get a pile of USB drives you only look at once in a great moon, they will fail. They fail on me all the time. Same goes for SSD, but fortunately with the exception of Portable SSD they always are plugged in.

What I've Done is to encode to one of the near lossless codecs, like DNX HD. Pull that file into premier and then export from their. Or I suppose you could just open the file with Adobe Media Encoder, it has preset output types.

The nice thing about using resolve is you can fix the noise and color issues that plagued the consumer grade DV cameras. Resolve also has fairly decent audio restoration tools. Of course you need a massive machine to do that in less than a lifetime, but it can be done none the less.

Once you have the files prepped you can use Encore to make either type with or without menu's.

Sure there are plenty of free utility's that can make direct play DVD or BluRay as well. ImgBurn comes to mind.

Unfortunately in this industry if you want a quality result you have to have multiple different products that seemingly do the same thing.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Oct 16, 2018 4:53 am

and dvd/bray never fail? i have brand name discs from 10 years ago that fail in some drives (not all), and others from even longer back that are kaput in all drives.

usb/hard drives might fail, but backing up files to numerous drives is not only a sensible precaution but, especially commercially, a no-brainer. not only do i have my files backed up to numerous drives (stored in different locations), but also on the cloud.

most people i know who've bought laptops in the last few years have opted (when there was a dvd installed) to have it removed and a second large capacity hd installed instead (the boot drive usually being a relatively small ssd). of course, ymmv.

in maybe a few years or so dvd/bray drives will be even scarcer to find in off the shelf equipment, and in 10, well, i don't see them making a comeback like vinyl :-)

as for actual storage capacity, if you have a LOT of material, mpg for dvd even at high bitrate isn't the optimum format, eg. and hour or so on a dvd, and a real pain cataloging dozens of them for easy access.

as for usb/hd drives failing, i'll take my chances against a dvd becoming unreadable, whether from material deterioration, or my grandkids playing frisbee with it, or simply getting scratched.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Oct 16, 2018 5:29 am

Good points, all. For my daughter, who has multiple DVD/Bray players (between real drives, Xbox's, etc), being able to just pop in a shiny disc and watch the video is the best option. I get it about having backups, but at least she will still have the original Mini DV tape as well as the disc that I burn. Nothing lasts forever, but 2 sources are better than one.

I appreciate all of the viewpoints expressed here, but I think I'll stick to the original plan to burn discs.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Oct 17, 2018 3:32 pm

Gary, if a mac is around you just for this encoding time at least : buy a 20 bucks external DVD player/burner if the mac no longer features some and get "Roxio Toast", even and old version, which is exactly what you're looking for...
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Oct 22, 2018 4:52 pm

I do have an ancient Mac G3 sitting in the closet. Hasn't been fired up in probably 10+ years. I think it is running the original version of Max OS X...
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Oct 22, 2018 5:08 pm

No ok, drop it :D
Do the same on PC (don't know the DVD burner app name though)
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Oct 22, 2018 6:04 pm

One stab at longevity is the M-Disc DVD/BluRay format which utilizes a mineral substrate as opposed to an organic layer. Supposed to last 1,000 years. Burners built by ASUS, LG and a few others.

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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Oct 22, 2018 8:15 pm

Interesting info regarding the M-Disc. Will investigate further, since I haven't purchased the Blu Ray burner yet.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSat May 25, 2019 8:47 pm

Hm... I read many information before ask this question: As I understood Davinci resolve 15 can't prepare m2ts files? So It important because I do not want to render one media two times (1 - real media, 2 - output from Davinci, 3 - final prepare by adobe encore).

What output format more compatible to BD? What can you suggest me? I'm working on PC win 10.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue May 28, 2019 6:26 pm

If BD is the only target, h264/AAC is the thing. If you don't need any authoring stage...
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue May 28, 2019 7:11 pm

DVD and BD are slowly dying. No one invest money in development of the new tools.
Samsung announced that they are stopping to make new BD players. It's bit of a shame as there isn't any other "medium" to offer quality near BD at this moment.
Create MP4 files (AVC+AAC) and give people on pendrive to play on PCs or directly with TVs.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue May 28, 2019 7:33 pm

If you must make DVD’S, DVD Architect is $25 from Humble Bundle right now. You get the old version of Vegas Pro and some other items for that price as well. You can pick what portion of the funds you want to go to a charity as well.

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/v ... rerebundle
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue May 28, 2019 8:06 pm

How can they sell it at this price?
Sounds doggy. Vegas still exists under new owner and old version should not be sold anymore.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue May 28, 2019 8:10 pm

Follet wrote:I do not want to render one media two times


You may not want to, but you probably should.

Export out a Cineform AVI file as a Master. Use the MeGUI x264 front end to create the Blu-ray compatible video stream. (BD accepts .wav files fine, so I recommend that for audio.)
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostFri Dec 13, 2019 6:39 pm

I also have to make dvd in supplement of Vimeo for dance schools. Even the last version of FinalCutPro is able to produce a DVD. No fancy autoring but you can, from your timeline or from files, produce a VIDEO_TS file with a basic menu and after burn it from FCPX, Toast or the finder.
If you have some friends working with FCPX or owning Toast, its the easiest solution!
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostFri Dec 13, 2019 9:10 pm

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:DVD and BD are slowly dying.

DVD and BD are dead! :)

If someone wants an offline video give them a USB stick, just as cheap and easier to produce.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSat Dec 14, 2019 3:08 am

I use Cyberlink Power2 Go 13 to create DVD and Blu-ray discs. If you create H.264 video(s), this program will burn the video(s) directly to a Blu-ray disc without reincoding the video file. I have also burned H.264 video files to a DVD with Power2Go 13. You can burn about 25 minutes to a DVD disc. The quality is as good as Blu-ray. You can download a trial version from the Cyberlink Website.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSat Dec 14, 2019 10:14 pm

FYI you can still use Adobe Encore. I just did last week. Here's how you can re-install it.
https://liberty.service-now.com/kb_view ... =KB0015368
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Dec 16, 2019 10:17 am

That's fine for a computer, but H.264 on a DVD will not play on a DVD player.
And, just a note: H.264 burned to an optical disk is not BluRay officially, it's just an AVCHD disk.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 am

DVD's are annoying to make nowadays imo. I used adobe encore all the time, but its not even available for download anymore. i still have to create DVD now and then, because some clients still want to sell it in stores. It's more or less luck that i did not remove encore from my pc in all those years.

I like the creative part of making the menus. but those times are kind of over i guess. most dvd's i have to create now are ''quick'' jobs. i wish there was a real alternative.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSun Aug 16, 2020 2:44 pm

I too still like to output to Blu-Ray. I do a menu, then make a photo for the cover, do the insert and the back, looks really nice and its great to have.

If they are doing away with DVD and Blu-Ray then how will I give recitals etc to all my clients. All my project need a menu. As far as I know there is still know what to do menus, and chapters in a mp4 file. So until they come out with a format that a person can use an arrow or scroll on a menu and pick what chapter they want to see I will need to use DVD/Blu-Rays.

Example: The last recital I did had 13 acts, I need to have a menu naming all 13 acts and a link to each on a menu, how can you do that in an mp4?

And know I am not just going to hand them 13 files. The Blu-Rays are beautifully don and very professional with great photos on the cover inside and back, with all the info etc...very hard to replace that.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSun Aug 16, 2020 3:34 pm

If your clients can view them on a computer, you can use HTML for a menu system and play local video files. I do hope that Blu Ray discs stay around for a while though, great for viewing on large TV's.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Aug 17, 2020 4:49 pm

New trend is to have your own website or app, eg. Netflix alike.
When it comes to streaming there are new services appearing which make things very easy- you upload master with metadata and streaming is "ready immediately". It does't use CDNs, but it's based on blockchain technology (new approach to streaming). It's still bit pricey though although from setup point of view, so easy. They also provide own end point- website with fairy simple player (but they also have pay per view system). All with few clicks- no developer needed.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Aug 17, 2020 6:35 pm

Yes, I use JW Player for what you are talking about. But I like to sell a service and a product. something I can hand them that is completely done, working and nice, a keepsake forever. it would be nice itf there was a software that would do a menu via html, pictures, links, mp4's and contain in a new kind of standard playable file, looks like I need to invent this ;) I been looking for this for years now.

I guess I am old school I don't buy music online or movies or anything like that. I like to have the real CD to hold and look at. I can then digitize, but I still have the physical CD.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostMon Aug 17, 2020 9:57 pm

I forgot to mention that if you use Cyberlink Power2Go 13 and put an H.264 video on a DVD you can get about 25 minutes. The video quality is as good as Blu-ray. I no longer produce DVD or Blu-ray discs. I send my clients through wetransfer.com the video file. You can send up to 2Gigabytes for free. They can download the video file and play it on a computer, tablet, television, etc.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Aug 18, 2020 4:27 am

H.264 on a DVD disc created in Cyberlink Power2Go 13 can only be played on a Blu-ray player.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Aug 18, 2020 9:54 am

Hi,
more than two years ago I wrote a description how to create a "UHD-BD-Disc" from your Films by using a cheap China Program.
Problems: PGM still not support chapters(as promised before)
Desciption is in German Language

here --> https://forum.edius.de/index.php?thread ... te-uhd-bl/
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Aug 18, 2020 11:23 am

If someone does create quite a many BDs/DVDs then TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 should be good tool and worth investing:
https://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/taw6.html

Price is not that high anymore and it's easy and powerful enough for most "home" needs.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Aug 19, 2020 4:46 pm

I've used Authoring Works. It's somewhat basic, but serviceable.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostWed Aug 19, 2020 5:10 pm

Yes, but for someone who needs a chapters menu it's enough.
For "advanced" disc you can use Scenarist, but this is far from easy and quick. It's quite painful tool to use actually :D
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Agreed.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSat Jul 31, 2021 8:45 pm

Of course another reason, and why I'm looking for a way to burn DVDs, is because my 93 yo Dad knows how to put DVDs in to play on his TV, but knows nothing about USB sticks, nor does his TV have USB capabilities, and his DVD player probably doesn't either.

I need to burn a copy of his wife's memorial service to DVD for him.

*sigh*

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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Aug 03, 2021 7:47 am

I don't get why for example adobe just didn't "release" encore. just remove your name from it, and leave the people with their tool.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Aug 03, 2021 10:34 am

If it's just needed to play the video without any fancy menu, Roxio Toast can do it.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostTue Aug 03, 2021 12:06 pm

Marc Salvatore wrote:I'm a big fan of TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works because of it's high quality results. I use it for converting to MP4 and DVD compliant files. It use Lanzcos scaling when downscaling for DVD and the higher quality x264 when encoding MP4. I then use DVD Architect for making DVDs or Blurays.



Exactly what I do too. Use it to encode for DVD but the Bluray encode is not always that compliant with DVD Architect so I get EDIUS to encode for that.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSat May 20, 2023 1:02 am

I've kept my copy of Edius Pro Booster 2.5 on my computers for this exact task.

I'm old, lots of my friends are old and we not only have DVD/Blueray players but i have a Cassette recorder AND a VHS recorder/player.

Still work. :D
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSat May 20, 2023 7:23 pm

I now use Authoring Works 6. They have a free trial.
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSun May 21, 2023 5:18 am

As others have suggested, I would like to add that DVD is not a good idea.

By the end of the decade DVDs will have gone the way of the Dodo and VHS . . .remember them . . . VHS I mean!

Create .mp4 files which can be played on any modern TV, Tablet, Computer, Mobile Phone etc.

Store them on USB sticks, HDDs, SSDs, Computers, Tablets, Mobile Phones.

I even upload them to cloud storage and encourage family and friends to download them.

This way multiple copies have been disseminated and it's all quicker, easier and cheaper than making DVDs and the numerous copies floating around give the films a greater chance of surviving than by creating single DVDs.

EDIT: I have just noticed that this thread started nearly 5 years ago!!!!!
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Re: Output to DVD or Blu Ray?

PostSun May 21, 2023 8:36 am

I had a request recently from a client for a DVD as they wanted to supply it to a family member as a gift (as others have also had years ago). They were quite insistent about it because a USB stick just does not have the same perceived value as a DVD case properly included with a custom printed case insert and custom printed disk (both of which I used to do on my Epson).

I still have Vegas Pro 20 and DVD Architect but since I had previously disposed of my supply of blank cases blank disks and Sony external writer hardware I declined.

Apparently you can create a new DVD or BluRay using the free Shutter Encoder (give him a donation via Paypal). And it is quite cheap to buy an external DVD+BluRay reader/writer. I bought a Pioneer BDR-XD07TS which works great on my laptop for playing my BluRay library and does not need a separate power supply so long as it has a short cable; it writes as well but it does not play 4k on mine.

Strangely, most clients here in the UK still want a physical USB stick even though I provide a downloadable file by default using Google Drive.

I provide numerous chapter markers on my MP4 files so these have taken the place of DVD menus to all intents and purposes.

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