Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

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Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 4:45 pm

In Premiere Pro, Vegas, and other NLE programs you can add certain third party effects from say Boris, NewBlue, and many others and have the ability to easily and intuitively edit them.

For example, when applying all effects in Resolve from high end, expensive, professional plugin companies, I have no choice but to fiddle with the X Y positions manually, trial and error, over and over, to get the results I want. Whether it's a focus spotlight plugin, a special blur, or any other type of FX, You can't.

How can you click and drag intuitively on the PREVIEW window to re-position FX parameters like X/Y from Boris and others? Premiere and Vegas have done this for years. Heck Camtasia does this with effects. I can't believe we're stuck having to manually guess and trial and error X Y settings like this. Eye dropping FX tools, selecting a certain area of the preview window would be SO easy if you could just click and drag like you can with transform tools but with your FX. Is this possible?

Forgive my English please. Please can someone save my sanity and my work today? How can you click and edit EFFECTS on the preview window, the same way you can do transform natively in Resolve, like pan zoom etc.

Thank you please.

PS. OFX Overlay seems to do nothing. I see no points or click and draggable information ANYwhere on the preview window :(
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 5:15 pm

Is your setting for Hide UI overlay off? Can you see a window outline if you turn one on?


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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 5:26 pm

dariobigi wrote:Is your setting for Hide UI overlay off? Can you see a window outline if you turn one on?


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Oh, you mean in global preferences? I have never enabled that. It's off. Turning it on does nothing.

What am I supposed to see? Sorry thank you
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 5:43 pm

Did you click the dropdown selector on the bottom left of the viewer in the edit page and choose 'OpenFX Overlay"?
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 5:44 pm

xunile wrote:Did you click the dropdown selector on the bottom left of the viewer in the edit page and choose 'OpenFX Overlay"?


Hello. Yes. I mentioned that in my PS of the first post. It didn't do anything :(

What does Hide UI overlay do in preferences? What should I see? I would love to see a window border or interactive overlay in the preview window for OFX, but I dont.

Do you know if certain companies work and some dont? Boris, NewBlue. etc
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 6:15 pm

Does the OpenFX Overlay do something if you choose a ResolveFX effect, say like Radial Blur. When I apply it there is a widget to move the center point of the effect. Also make sure that when OpenFX Overlay is chosen from the dropdown that it is actually enabled, you can toggle it on and off by clicking it.
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 6:23 pm

xunile wrote:Does the OpenFX Overlay do something if you choose a ResolveFX effect, say like Radial Blur. When I apply it there is a widget to move the center point of the effect. Also make sure that when OpenFX Overlay is chosen from the dropdown that it is actually enabled, you can toggle it on and off by clicking it.


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Yes for built in resolveFX they work seemingly OK. However it's very spotty for third party. Why?

OFX is OFX.

Other NLE I've used have various ways to interact with the preview, for example in Vegas you get a little NewBlueFX dialog box where you can drag around an XY pad and it reflects on the preview window. In Premiere Pro, you can flat out drag and click and move around directly on the preview for all effects 3rd party.

Do you how to get third party plugins that 100% have the ability to click and drag X Y previews actually working Resolve? And yes the Overlay is activated.

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It's torture to manually guess the X and Y manually for every time!
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 6:37 pm

I just tried 5 Boris OFX effects applied on the color page and all had the controls available in the overlay.

Easy to adjust by eye.

Not an exhaustive test but it does work
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 6:39 pm

Jack Swart wrote:I just tried 5 Boris OFX effects applied on the color page and all had the controls available in the overlay.

Easy to adjust by eye.

Not an exhaustive test but it does work



Hello

Thank you for trying to help me. I never use the color page, is that required to use all OFX plugins??

Boris does indeed have some plugins working with an overlay but certainly not the majority. NewBlue simply has nothing in Resolve - totally broken. All X Y has to be guessed by hand, decimal values, the works. That blows my mind in 2018 OFX.

What is different about color page vs edit page for OFX overlay edits?
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 6:40 pm

Can't you just click and drag left/right on the values? I understand it's not what you're after but it beats guessing values.
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 6:41 pm

roger.magnusson wrote:Can't you just click and drag left/right on the values? I understand it's not what you're after but it beats guessing values.



Actually no. You can't. At all. You have to manually type in the XY values, thus my reason for starting this thread :) There is no drag option. Just a field to type numbers in.

I'd settle for a draggable slider X Y for these plugins but it doesnt appear. I can show you if that helps.

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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 7:11 pm

I see. Yes, that's not good...

If you add the OFX in the Fusion page instead you can click and drag the values, but the Fusion compositing pipeline is of course slower.

Not sure if you need the Studio version or not for OFX in the Fusion page.
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 7:23 pm

roger.magnusson wrote:I see. Yes, that's not good...

If you add the OFX in the Fusion page instead you can click and drag the values, but the Fusion compositing pipeline is of course slower.

Not sure if you need the Studio version or not for OFX in the Fusion page.



I have Studio, and I'm on the fusion page but adding the OFX this way does not seem to solve my issue.
Can you show me how to enable these slider click and drag values? that would be at least a compromise albeit a severe setback to switching to Resolve from Vegas or Premiere.

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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 7:58 pm

I'm not confident that this will actually get addressed, but just FYI

NewBlueFX v6 flat out crashes DaVinci EVERY single time I load ANY of their OFX plugins in the Fusion tab.
However, 99% of the NewBlueFX work 'good enough' in the edit tab. Clunky, slow, laggy, buggy yes. But at least they kind of work there. But Fusion tab? Crashes Resolve every time I load a NewBlue 6 FX.

Any ideas why?

I've tried to fix all settings from GPU, CPU, Cuda, Open, etc. nothing works.

Either I suffer with manual X Y nonsense in the edit page for HOURS just to position certain FX parameters, or I crash the program by using the NewBlue OFX on the Fusion tab thus unusable in general.

:(

Any tips on fixing OFX crashes like this? Some setting?
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 8:02 pm

Scarlet wrote:Can you show me how to enable these slider click and drag values?
You just click and drag over the text box:

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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostTue Oct 30, 2018 8:05 pm

roger.magnusson wrote:
Scarlet wrote:Can you show me how to enable these slider click and drag values?
You just click and drag over the text box:

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Maybe, if I was able to even load the plugin in the first place :( Thanks though, I am sad now. NewBlue TotalFX 5v is unusable in Resolve 15 at this point. I guess I have to replace them $$$.

Fusion tab is crashing with every attempt to load OFX.
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostWed Oct 31, 2018 4:03 am

Charlie

Does this happen under Windows or Linux? Could you provide links to diagnostic logs for your crashes and a system spec?

If you're on Linux, could you please check if
a. this happens on the BMD official CentOS 7.3 release and
b. your drivers are supported - specifically if the Noveau and Mesa drivers have been blacklisted and the official NVidia and/or Intel (assuming that's your system) drivers installed.
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Re: Serious frustration with OFX limitations please help

PostWed Oct 31, 2018 10:24 am

Shrinivas Ramani wrote:Charlie

Does this happen under Windows or Linux? Could you provide links to diagnostic logs for your crashes and a system spec?

If you're on Linux, could you please check if
a. this happens on the BMD official CentOS 7.3 release and
b. your drivers are supported - specifically if the Noveau and Mesa drivers have been blacklisted and the official NVidia and/or Intel (assuming that's your system) drivers installed.


This is happening on my Windows machine. All other NLE software on the PC work correctly, so I doubt highly it's not tied to Resolve directly somehow,

Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Blackmagic Design\DaVinci Resolve\Resolve.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\igdrcl64.dll

Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Blackmagic Design\DaVinci Resolve\Resolve.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll

Yes, I've rebooted abd updated drivers. Tried Open and CUDA. All possible solutions I could think of. Tried disabling, re-enabling. Not sure why intel drivers are involved, that's not being used. At all. Only my GTX.

Please advise. Thank you! I love Resolve. I don't want to go back to Vegas and Premiere :( lol
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