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Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:35 pm
by Ric Murray
I am attempting to make the 100% switch, from Adobe Subscription World to the Resolve BlackMagic side of the street. I have been able to edit successfully in Resolve, and managed a number of AE tasks in Fusion, although it's by no means instinctual yet. The tab that's killing me though, is Fairlight. Does anyone have a link to step by step tutorials that show a dialog edit they could refer me to?

From Audition, I specifically miss the ability to edit the wave form of a single clip. In Audition I would often take a single clip with a breath pop, or vocal click and go into the wave form and "paint out", "copy and paste over" or "clone out" an offending bit of sonic trash. I cannot find a mechanism for that in Fairlight. I also used Parametric equalizers with very narrow Q bands to reduce resonance in "hot" areas of signal (lower mids on lavs mounted on actors' chest). Don't seem to be finding that either.

Could we maybe break off a Forum Topic just for Fairlight (and Fusion) tabs where transitional creatures such as myself could ask newbie questions and help each other without clogging up the Resolve area?

Re: Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:20 pm
by Miltos Pilalitos
Ric Murray wrote:From Audition, I specifically miss the ability to edit the wave form of a single clip. In Audition I would often take a single clip with a breath pop, or vocal click and go into the wave form and "paint out", "copy and paste over" or "clone out" an offending bit of sonic trash. I cannot find a mechanism for that in Fairlight. I also used Parametric equalizers with very narrow Q bands to reduce resonance in "hot" areas of signal (lower mids on lavs mounted on actors' chest). Don't seem to be finding that either.


You can't do spectral audio editing in Fairlight. You need a dedicated DAW for that. But pops and clicks can be removed easily and automatically with a VST plugin. Accusonus makes a nice bundle you might want to check out. There is also Izotope's RX7 for more advanced editing.

Ric Murray wrote:I also used Parametric equalizers with very narrow Q bands to reduce resonance in "hot" areas of signal (lower mids on lavs mounted on actors' chest). Don't seem to be finding that either.


There are ways to use the clip's EQ with very narrow Q bands.
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I come from Audition as well. There are still some things i used there that i miss in Fairlight but BMD is adding FairlightFX tools all the time. It is so convenient to have video editing and audio editing in the same software that the few things i miss from Audition are not enough to lure me back.

Re: Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:19 pm
by Brad Hurley
Ric Murray wrote:Could we maybe break off a Forum Topic just for Fairlight (and Fusion) tabs where transitional creatures such as myself could ask newbie questions and help each other without clogging up the Resolve area?


If it helps, there's supposed to be a detailed manual for Fairlight in the works; I believe it's being written by Mary Plummer, an experienced sound editor and trainer who's been working for BMD. If you search on youtube for "Mary Plummer" and "Fairlight" you'll also see a video of her doing a walkthrough of some of the features of Fairlight in Resolve 15.

Re: Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:10 pm
by Ryan Bloomer
If you decide to keep audition or have RX, I've found the new "External Audio Process" workflow to be a huge benefit. I still can use all the spectral tools in audition or RX on a clip basis and still have access to the original unaffected clip in the context of the edit on the fairlight timeline. And like Miltos mentioned, having all of this in the context of the edit is such a huge benefit for workflow.

Re: Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:20 pm
by Brad Hurley
Ryan Bloomer wrote:If you decide to keep audition or have RX, I've found the new "External Audio Process" workflow to be a huge benefit. I still can use all the spectral tools in audition or RX on a clip basis and still have access to the original unaffected clip in the context of the edit on the fairlight timeline. And like Miltos mentioned, having all of this in the context of the edit is such a huge benefit for workflow.


Yes, this is what makes Fairlight practical for me! I need to use RX for a lot of things, and I prefer the swipe-based approach to comping that's available in Logic (which I use for recording and editing voiceovers and music).

Re: Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:19 pm
by Ric Murray
I've found the new "External Audio Process" workflow


I have not found this anywhere in the Fairlight tab, could you direct me to where "it" lives?

Re: Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:25 pm
by Reynaud Venter
Ric Murray wrote:I have not found this anywhere in the Fairlight tab, could you direct me to where "it" lives?
Open Application Preferences > System > Audio Plugins > Setup External Audio Processes.

Type:
"Command Line" automatically opens the Audio Clip in the external application.

"Reveal" locates the Audio Clip in the Finder / Explorer for external applications that do not function with the "Command Line" option.

"Clipboard" shares data between applications.

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The Audio Clip's contextual menu will then provide an "External Audio Process" sub-menu.

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Re: Learning Fairlight, Separate Topic?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:47 pm
by Ric Murray
Whoa! I would of never found that one! Thanks!