portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

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portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostFri Nov 23, 2018 12:53 pm

https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureVie ... uantity=1#



https://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureVie ... quantity=1



What's the best? Do they handle the job?



Basically, the difference is between (per each of both options, respectively):

- Intel® Core™ i7-8705G (3.1 GHz, up to 4.1 GHz, 8MB cache, 4 cores) vs Intel® Core™ i7-8750H (2.2 GHz, up to 4.1 GHz, 6 cores)

- 16 GB DDR4-2400 SDRAM (2x8GB) vs 16GB onboard

- Radeon™ RX Vega M Graphics (4GB dedicated memory) vs NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050Ti with Max-Q design (4 GB)
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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostSun Nov 25, 2018 8:42 am

The links don’t work.

Is there a better GPU with more vram available?
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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostSun Nov 25, 2018 9:03 am

...all I can say forget about the GTX 1050 Ti to do anything meaningful with 4k, leaving alone grading. It's a pain, GPU memory full messages even for the most simple operations in Resolve 15.2. And for the Vega GPU option there was just a thread over here that Resolve won't even start on such a system. Also I wouldn't consider anything less than 32GB main memory.

Just saying that to save you a ton of frustration. My maxed out XPS 9570 is about as useless as it gets for 4k in Resolve.
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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostSun Nov 25, 2018 9:11 am

shooter wrote: What's the best? Do they handle the job?


Hi.

In Resolve the CPU is used to run the app, disk I/O and compression and decompression of codecs.
Resolve does all its image processing in the GPU on the graphics card. More CUDA/OpenCL Cores are better.

The Radeon RX Vega M GH Graphics have a OpenCL score of 87509
And the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti have a OpenCL score of 83802. But will be a little faster when you use the CUDA cores.

Acording to: https://browser.geekbench.com/opencl-benchmarks

But both are low. You will need a graphics performance much higher. Suggest you look at a GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Max-Q togetter with a Intel mobile 6 core Cpu.

And normally I recommend laptops in a medium to large size to get rid of the generated heat.

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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostSun Nov 25, 2018 12:33 pm

When you say '4k' what actual codecs are you going to be using? Highly compressed H.264 10bit codecs are going to be a lot more problematic than an 8bit ProRes codec. For 'confident' Resolve operation on a mobile computer I'd highly recommend an eGPU.
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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostSun Nov 25, 2018 4:21 pm

John Griffin wrote: For 'confident' Resolve operation on a mobile computer I'd highly recommend an eGPU.


Hi.

If you use a eGPU do you ONLY use 4 PCIe lanes to connect your Graphics Card.

If you use a built in Mobile Graphics Card do you have the opportunity to use all 16 PCIe lanes, according to the chipset used in your mobile PC. Here is a list if the number of PCIe lanes with the different mobile chipsets:

HM370 16 PCIe 3.0
QM370 20 PCIe 3.0
CM246 24 PCIe 3.0

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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostMon Nov 26, 2018 8:01 am

I've got a Dell XPS 9560 so AFAIK it only has 2 PCIe lanes on the eGPU which is also daisy chained to my RAID0 media drive for the source footage. On paper this is a terrible setup but the eGPU renders optimised media and Render Cache (to 2nd internal SSD) way, way faster then using the internal 1050GPU and I don't get thermal throttling and thus I can use resolve with some confidence it won't keep bogging down or I have to wait for long periods as render cache is generated.
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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostMon Nov 26, 2018 8:12 am

Peter Chamberlain wrote:The links don’t work.

Is there a better GPU with more vram available?
It is the HP Spectre x360.

I have some questions.

I am planning to add an external GPU because of the portable need.

As for example the AORUS GTX 1080 Gaming Box.

Not even idea if this external gaming box is upgradable for the AORUS GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti 11G with 11GB? Is it?

Going with eGPU, might we dismiss the internal GPU with dedicated 4GB memory for Intel® UHD Graphics 620 to share the 16 GB RAM?

Will 16MB of RAM be enough for 4K editing and 4K grading? RAW? And BRAW when will come up?
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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostMon Nov 26, 2018 10:38 am

A slim laptop running heavy gpu processing has a short life.
You should go for bulky and heavy laptops like MSI or Alienware, big fans, big air intake, better thermal architecture.

I suggest to buy an XPS 15 and add an external GPU (GTX 1080Ti)

or the new Mac Book Pro 15" with Vega 20 + external gpu (RX Vega)

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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostMon Nov 26, 2018 10:51 am

Hi Shooter.

The GTX 1080 and the GTX 1080 Ti is a much better choice for Resolve than the GTX 1050 Ti.
But I only read recommendation for a eGPU from users with a GTX 1050 or similar. The slow speed of the 4 PCIe lanes connection to the eGPU limits it to slow Graphics Cards.

But I don't understand that you are considering a solution with a under powered laptop together with an external eGPU, when you can get a good laptop with an buildt in GTX 1070 or GTX 1070 Max-Q Graphics Card. Here is a link to some of the best:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Notebookc ... 456.0.html

If you click on the brand and type number do you come to a very detailed review, with the advantages and disadvantages of that partikular laptop.
And I personally don't like the Schenkers as they are more noicy that the rest.

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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostMon Nov 26, 2018 10:56 am

I suspect that HP laptop will be underpowered without a TB 3 external eGPU.
Even then, performance hasn't been verified here so hopefully someone else has tried it.

The config guide shows laptops we have tested. Details at the top of the forum.
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Re: portable computer to edit & grade 4K on Resolve 15

PostMon Nov 26, 2018 3:07 pm

And there's always the forgotten option of using a real desktop machine with gobs of full size GPU's and NVMe storage for the actual processing and just using the laptop as a terminal. As needed, export projects with optimized media for work without a network.
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