Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

Get answers to your questions about color grading, editing and finishing with DaVinci Resolve.
  • Author
  • Message
Offline
User avatar

Dwaine Maggart

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 5581
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Dec 20, 2018 12:28 am

I'll post this here, even though no one will read it. Maybe someone will stumble across it with a search.

In the new Windows 10 version 1809 update, Microsoft has made changes in the font area.

In the past, when you installed .ttf fonts. it required Admin privileges and installed the font for all users.

In 1809, you can install .ttf fonts for the local user without Admin privileges. That sounds nice, but if you do that, the font won't show up in the Resolve Text+ font list. It will be in the Text font list.

With 1809, if you install a font, when you right click on the .ttf file, you have a new menu called "Install For All Users". It requires Admin level privileges. And you have the old Install menu. If you want the font to be available in the Resolve Text+ font list, use the "Install For All Users" menu.
Dwaine Maggart
Blackmagic Design DaVinci Support
Offline

Seth Goldin

  • Posts: 558
  • Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:43 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Dec 20, 2018 12:32 am

Thanks for the heads up!
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16.1.1.055
CentOS Linux 8.0.1905 (Core)
HP Z8 G4
1x Intel® Xeon® Gold 6136
48 GB (6x8 GB) DDR4-2666 ECC Registered RAM
1x GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
NVIDIA driver 440.36
https://www.sethgoldin.com
Offline
User avatar

Andy Mees

  • Posts: 270
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:48 am

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Dec 20, 2018 6:54 am

Thanks Dwaine
I upgraded one of our systems to 1809 recently, so this is very good to know.
Cheers
Andy
Windows 10 Pro 1903 | Studio 16.1 b3 | i7-3820 | 24GB RAM | GTX 1060 6GB | 430.86
Desktop Video 11.4 | Decklink Mini Monitor | PVM2541 | WFM7200
and at home, Mac OS X 10.14.1 on a 6 core 2.6 GHz i7 MBPro (I7-8850H) with 32GB RAM and 4GB Radeon Pro 560X.
Offline

TYKHAN

  • Posts: 92
  • Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:44 pm
  • Real Name: Abdul Majeed

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Dec 20, 2018 10:21 am

Thank you Dwaine Maggart,
Very useful tip. :)
Now I know where my fonts are gone.
OS: Windows 10 Pro v1903 OS Build 18362.356 64-bit ENG
Motherboard: ASUS X99-E WS CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1650 v3 4.1GHz RAM: 4x 16 Kingston DDR4 2133MHz ECC
GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Driver version 441.12/ DaVinci Resolve Studio 16.1.1
Offline

Nate Porter

  • Posts: 186
  • Joined: Wed May 01, 2013 8:22 am

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Dec 20, 2018 3:00 pm

Thanks for the update
Offline
User avatar

Jean Claude

  • Posts: 2973
  • Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:41 pm
  • Location: France
  • Warnings: 1

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Dec 20, 2018 5:57 pm

Good to know. Thank you Dwaine :)
"Saying it is good, but doing it is better! "
Win10-1809 | Resolve Studio V16.1 | Fusion Studio V16.1 | Decklink 4K Extreme 6G | RTX 2080Ti 431.86 NSD driver! |
Offline

Jim Simon

  • Posts: 4404
  • Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:47 am

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Dec 20, 2018 8:32 pm

Very helpful. Thanks Dwaine.
Offline

Chip.Murphy

  • Posts: 154
  • Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:59 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostFri Dec 21, 2018 5:54 am

You're the man, Dwaine!
Offline

Steve Alexander

  • Posts: 662
  • Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:15 am

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Jan 02, 2019 4:38 pm

Nice one, Dwaine! Thanks

And you thought no one would read your post!

Happy New Year
Resolve Studio 16.1b3 | Fusion Studio 16.1b3 | Win 10 Pro (1903) | i9-7940x, P4000 (431.86, 8GB VRAM), 64GB RAM, M.2 boot, SSD scratch, RAID10 data | (laptop) i7-6600, M1000M (2GB VRAM), 32GB RAM, SSD OS, M.2 scratch, T3 external
Offline

cachecow

  • Posts: 26
  • Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:21 am
  • Real Name: Charles Uibel

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Jan 09, 2019 8:08 am

Thanks!!

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
Offline

John Richard

  • Posts: 249
  • Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:25 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Jan 09, 2019 3:36 pm

Great heads up Dwaine!
And thanks for all the support you provide here on the forum as well.
Offline

cachecow

  • Posts: 26
  • Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:21 am
  • Real Name: Charles Uibel

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Jan 10, 2019 12:33 am

is that why maybe 5 out of every 20 fonts work that are in my list?
Offline
User avatar

dariobigi

  • Posts: 270
  • Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:52 am
  • Location: New York City

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostFri Jan 25, 2019 7:15 am

Dwaine, you’re the George Bailey of Black Magic Design.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Dario Bigi, Editor / Colorist CSI
http://dariobigi.com
New York
C: 646-436-4600

HP z840 - (2) 14 Core 2.6GHz - 64GB RAM - 2 TitanX 12GB - SSD 8TB RAID - Win 10 Pro 1809 - DR 15.3 Studio - Fusion 9.0.2 Studio - BMD Mini Panel - FSI CM250 - Panny BT300
Offline

thegraal

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:41 pm
  • Real Name: Alex Muntean

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostFri Jan 25, 2019 9:00 pm

Amazing! Gonna try this now.

EDIT: It solved my issue. So happy! <3
Last edited by thegraal on Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
Offline

aerofart

  • Posts: 22
  • Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:53 pm
  • Real Name: Salvatore Giambruno

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostSat Jan 26, 2019 6:35 pm

Thanks for the information.
Offline

Steve S.

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 pm
  • Location: Toronto
  • Real Name: Stephen Schmidt

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Feb 20, 2019 9:44 pm

Help! I only have 5 fonts available for Text+. I have tried reinstalling all the fonts on my system using the "right click Install for all" mentioned above but it doesn't seem to help. Restarted Resolve. Restarted computer. Tried downloading and installing fonts. Nothing seems to work. They appear in the normal text app.
Font path: C:\Windows.old\WINDOWS\Fonts
Windows 10
Ryzen 5 Build
Resolve 15.2.3 (free)
Any help is really appreciated!
~Steve
Offline
User avatar

Dwaine Maggart

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 5581
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am

That seems like an odd location for the fonts. They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts
Dwaine Maggart
Blackmagic Design DaVinci Support
Offline

Steve S.

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 pm
  • Location: Toronto
  • Real Name: Stephen Schmidt

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 6:30 pm

Dwaine Maggart wrote:That seems like an odd location for the fonts. They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts


Well somehow they are in both. For the record, I didn't change anything so these must be the system defaults. But these fonts won't give me the "Install For All Users" install option. Not sure what to do. Attached a image.
Attachments
Image1.jpg
Image1.jpg (168.97 KiB) Viewed 3353 times
~Steve
Offline
User avatar

Dwaine Maggart

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 5581
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 9:02 pm

What version of Windows 10 are you using?
Dwaine Maggart
Blackmagic Design DaVinci Support
Offline

Steve S.

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 pm
  • Location: Toronto
  • Real Name: Stephen Schmidt

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 10:12 pm

Win 10 Home, V. 1809, Build 17763.316
~Steve
Offline
User avatar

Dwaine Maggart

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 5581
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 11:08 pm

Regarding your previous post, the right click option to Install For All Users is for when you are installing a new .ttf font file. It's not for fonts that are already installed.
Dwaine Maggart
Blackmagic Design DaVinci Support
Offline
User avatar

Dwaine Maggart

Blackmagic Design

  • Posts: 5581
  • Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Feb 21, 2019 11:16 pm

That said, this whole thread is about installing NEW font files on version 1809.

Font's that were already on the system previous to the 1809 version were already available to all users and should be visible in Text+.

Can you confirm that the fonts you are not seeing in Text+ were installed before or after you were running version 1809?
Dwaine Maggart
Blackmagic Design DaVinci Support
Offline

Steve S.

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 pm
  • Location: Toronto
  • Real Name: Stephen Schmidt

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostFri Feb 22, 2019 4:12 pm

Both. I reinstalled the fonts that were not showing up and they still didn't show. I tried installing new fonts and they don't show. The new fonts show up in other programs, as do the rest of them.
~Steve
Offline

jp_agner

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:08 pm
  • Real Name: Ivan Popov

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostSun Feb 24, 2019 6:19 am

Steve S. wrote:
Dwaine Maggart wrote:They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Well somehow they are in both.


Don't use Explorer to see where the fonts are. Use some 3rd party file manager, like Total Commander. Explorer automatically shows you all of the installed fonts instead of real C:\Windows\Fonts folder contents. So, use something like Total Commander to see if your fonts are actually there. If they're not, just copy them there using the same 3rd party file manager. Helped me.

P.S. Total Commander hides some system folders, including 'Fonts'. You need to make them visible by activating 'show hidden files' option in Total Commander.
Last edited by jp_agner on Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Offline

Steve S.

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 pm
  • Location: Toronto
  • Real Name: Stephen Schmidt

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostMon Feb 25, 2019 8:35 pm

jp_agner wrote:
Steve S. wrote:
Dwaine Maggart wrote:They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Well somehow they are in both.


Don't use Explorer to see where the fonts are. Use some 3rd party file manager, like Total Commander. Explorer automatically shows you all of the installed fonts instead of real C:\Windows\Fonts folder contents. So, use something like Total Commander to see if your fonts are actually there. If they're not, just copy them there using the same 3rd party file manager. Helped me.


Thank you everyone for the help. But it just keep getting weirder. I installed TC only to find that the Fonts folder doesn't even show up. It still shows up the same in Explorer (pic attached). So the folder even really there? I'm so very confused. I tried making a new Fonts folder in C\Windows but it just deletes the folder after I enter the name.
Attachments
Image11.jpg
Image11.jpg (345.84 KiB) Viewed 3173 times
~Steve
Offline

jp_agner

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:08 pm
  • Real Name: Ivan Popov

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Feb 27, 2019 5:23 pm

Steve S. wrote:I installed TC only to find that the Fonts folder doesn't even show up.

TC hides some system folders. You need to make them visible. Configuration - Options - Display.
Capture3.png
Capture3.png (24.03 KiB) Viewed 3124 times


I just added a button to the toolbar. Alternatively, you can just use cm_SwitchHidSys command in the field at the bottom of TC window to make hidden files and folders visible:
Capture.png
Capture.png (14.15 KiB) Viewed 3129 times


Or just use cd Fonts command (while in Windows\ folder) to go straight into the Fonts folder:
Capture2.png
Capture2.png (13.7 KiB) Viewed 3129 times
Offline

Steve S.

  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:13 pm
  • Location: Toronto
  • Real Name: Stephen Schmidt

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Feb 27, 2019 9:02 pm

WOW! I can't believe this. On a whim I updated to 15.2.4 and now the fonts are showing up. Guess it has some sort of patch for the issue. Or something I did earlier took affect. Either way sorry for all the trouble and thanks for hanging in there with me. Hope this helps someone else!
~Steve
Offline

Li Chenghan

  • Posts: 105
  • Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:47 am
  • Real Name: Li Chenghan

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostTue May 07, 2019 9:16 am

Dwaine Maggart wrote:That said, this whole thread is about installing NEW font files on version 1809.

Font's that were already on the system previous to the 1809 version were already available to all users and should be visible in Text+.

Can you confirm that the fonts you are not seeing in Text+ were installed before or after you were running version 1809?



I hope you can increase your support for Traditional Chinese.
12-Core AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X, 3700 MHz (37 x 100)
Asus ROG Strix X399-E Gaming
GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G
G.SKILL DDR4-3200 CL16 32G
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 1909
Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K/BRAW 3:1 5:1
Offline

Jeremy Hollobon

  • Posts: 14
  • Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:57 am

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostMon Jun 17, 2019 11:46 pm

It's June 2019, and this post saved my bacon - thanks, all.

Incidentally, if the "Install for all Users" menu item isn't showing up (as per the earlier screen shot) it's probably because the font file is already in a font directory (in which Windows will display font groups, not individual font files). So just install from some other directory.
Offline

R. Baris Ferah

  • Posts: 10
  • Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:02 pm

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostSat Jul 06, 2019 9:23 pm

This is just too exhausting. I mean I need to close and reopen DaVinci Resolve everytime I need to add new fonts. When Resolve was just an Color/Edit software it was acceptable but now it has Fusion in it. Sometimes when I am working on motion graphics I need to try different fonts and usually I like to control this fonts with an additional software like FontBase or NexusFont. Because if I load too much font to my system without managing them my font list goes crazy. It becomes a list that goes to infinity and beyond. I don't want that, no one want that.

And Windows' Font managing system is also terrible, there is no categorizing or folder options. After a while I lose the track if I rely on it. Therefore an additional software is required to deal with this situation. However, like I addressed this issue about a year ago;

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=77144

Resolve's backend is incompatible with these applications. And the weird thing is that while you can see and use the fonts that installed with these application with simple "Text" Effect, you can't use them with "Text+" or inside Fusion. This is just crazy. This actually means that whatever code blocks that developers use for Text, they use completely different code block for Text+ and Fusion. I know this is a free software (at least I'm using the free version), also this is a very simple issue to fix. Just use in Fusion and Text+ whatever you used in Text.

I know Text+ is heavily depending on Fusion software but it shouldn't be that hard to add this functionality. We are in 2019. Word does it, Adobe Suite does it and this might hurt your feelings but I'm going to say it anyway.. even Notepad does it. Notepad...

In addition to them I'm really grateful that you share this beautiful software with world for free. And you actually making an amazing job so far, I need to give you that. But this is a very annoying issue. Try to picture this problem like this. You are a F1 Pilot and whenever you need to go in Pit Stop there would be no pit crew and you need to stop your engine, then get out of your vehicle, put some gas in it, change your tires yourself then get in your vehicle and continue to race like through this workflow. It sounds really inefficient, right?
Offline

darrenracer

  • Posts: 5
  • Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:12 pm
  • Real Name: Darren Roberts

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostThu Oct 03, 2019 5:37 pm

Hi Everyone,
I'm on Windows 10 version 1903 - I'm having a hard time solving this problem on showing available fonts in Resolve 16 Studio. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Offline

darrenracer

  • Posts: 5
  • Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:12 pm
  • Real Name: Darren Roberts

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Nov 20, 2019 5:32 am

Can someone please reply from BM - if it's impossible to fix for Windows 10 then please at least let me know. Just going dark is not the answer.
Offline

Jim Simon

  • Posts: 4404
  • Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:47 am

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Nov 20, 2019 5:01 pm

darrenracer wrote:I'm having a hard time showing available fonts in Resolve 16 Studio.


What exactly is the problem?
Offline

darrenracer

  • Posts: 5
  • Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:12 pm
  • Real Name: Darren Roberts

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Nov 20, 2019 6:49 pm

The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.
Offline

Michael_Andreas

  • Posts: 1131
  • Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:40 pm
  • Real Name: Michael Andreas

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Nov 20, 2019 6:56 pm

When these fonts were installed, were they done by an account with administrator privileges and made available to all users? If you're not sure, maybe try de-installing and re-installing as an Admin.
_________________________________________________
DR Studio 16.1.1.005 - Win10 Pro 64b - i7-6700K@4GHz - 32GB RAM
- NVIDIA RTX 2070 8GB, "Studio" driver 431.86 (upgr fr GTX1070 11/22)
- C: Drive 250 GB SSD - Project/Cache Drive 1 TB SSD
Offline

darrenracer

  • Posts: 5
  • Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:12 pm
  • Real Name: Darren Roberts

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Nov 20, 2019 9:20 pm

The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.
Offline

Michael_Andreas

  • Posts: 1131
  • Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:40 pm
  • Real Name: Michael Andreas

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostWed Nov 20, 2019 10:03 pm

According to the DR manual, Fusion can have issues with fonts handled by 3rd-party font managers. Nothing about the rest of DR having issues. So since Fusion is cobbled into DR that part must be handled separately.
_________________________________________________
DR Studio 16.1.1.005 - Win10 Pro 64b - i7-6700K@4GHz - 32GB RAM
- NVIDIA RTX 2070 8GB, "Studio" driver 431.86 (upgr fr GTX1070 11/22)
- C: Drive 250 GB SSD - Project/Cache Drive 1 TB SSD
Offline

Jim Simon

  • Posts: 4404
  • Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:47 am

Re: Windows 10 Version 1809 Font Changes and Resolve Text+

PostFri Nov 22, 2019 6:14 pm

darrenracer wrote:The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.


This is exactly the symptom described by Wayne in the original post, which also provides the solution.

Return to DaVinci Resolve

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: apessino, Google [Bot], Nick Kurucsev, xunile and 113 guests