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I'll post this here, even though no one will read it. Maybe someone will stumble across it with a search.

In the new Windows 10 version 1809 update, Microsoft has made changes in the font area.

In the past, when you installed .ttf fonts. it required Admin privileges and installed the font for all users.

In 1809, you can install .ttf fonts for the local user without Admin privileges. That sounds nice, but if you do that, the font won't show up in the Resolve Text+ font list. It will be in the Text font list.

With 1809, if you install a font, when you right click on the .ttf file, you have a new menu called "Install For All Users". It requires Admin level privileges. And you have the old Install menu. If you want the font to be available in the Resolve Text+ font list, use the "Install For All Users" menu.

Thanks for the heads up!

Thanks Dwaine
I upgraded one of our systems to 1809 recently, so this is very good to know.
Cheers
Andy

Thank you Dwaine Maggart,
Very useful tip.
Now I know where my fonts are gone.

Thanks for the update

Good to know. Thank you Dwaine

Very helpful. Thanks Dwaine.

You're the man, Dwaine!

Nice one, Dwaine! Thanks

And you thought no one would read your post!

Happy New Year

Thanks!!

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Great heads up Dwaine!
And thanks for all the support you provide here on the forum as well.

is that why maybe 5 out of every 20 fonts work that are in my list?

Dwaine, you’re the George Bailey of Black Magic Design.


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Amazing! Gonna try this now.

EDIT: It solved my issue. So happy! <3

Thanks for the information.

Help! I only have 5 fonts available for Text+. I have tried reinstalling all the fonts on my system using the "right click Install for all" mentioned above but it doesn't seem to help. Restarted Resolve. Restarted computer. Tried downloading and installing fonts. Nothing seems to work. They appear in the normal text app.
Font path: C:\Windows.old\WINDOWS\Fonts
Windows 10
Ryzen 5 Build
Resolve 15.2.3 (free)
Any help is really appreciated!

That seems like an odd location for the fonts. They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Dwaine Maggart wrote:That seems like an odd location for the fonts. They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Well somehow they are in both. For the record, I didn't change anything so these must be the system defaults. But these fonts won't give me the "Install For All Users" install option. Not sure what to do. Attached a image.

What version of Windows 10 are you using?

Win 10 Home, V. 1809, Build 17763.316

Regarding your previous post, the right click option to Install For All Users is for when you are installing a new .ttf font file. It's not for fonts that are already installed.

That said, this whole thread is about installing NEW font files on version 1809.

Font's that were already on the system previous to the 1809 version were already available to all users and should be visible in Text+.

Can you confirm that the fonts you are not seeing in Text+ were installed before or after you were running version 1809?

Both. I reinstalled the fonts that were not showing up and they still didn't show. I tried installing new fonts and they don't show. The new fonts show up in other programs, as do the rest of them.

Steve S. wrote:

Dwaine Maggart wrote:They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Well somehow they are in both.

Don't use Explorer to see where the fonts are. Use some 3rd party file manager, like Total Commander. Explorer automatically shows you all of the installed fonts instead of real C:\Windows\Fonts folder contents. So, use something like Total Commander to see if your fonts are actually there. If they're not, just copy them there using the same 3rd party file manager. Helped me.

P.S. Total Commander hides some system folders, including 'Fonts'. You need to make them visible by activating 'show hidden files' option in Total Commander.

jp_agner wrote:

Steve S. wrote:

Dwaine Maggart wrote:They should be in:

C:\Windows\Fonts

Well somehow they are in both.

Don't use Explorer to see where the fonts are. Use some 3rd party file manager, like Total Commander. Explorer automatically shows you all of the installed fonts instead of real C:\Windows\Fonts folder contents. So, use something like Total Commander to see if your fonts are actually there. If they're not, just copy them there using the same 3rd party file manager. Helped me.

Thank you everyone for the help. But it just keep getting weirder. I installed TC only to find that the Fonts folder doesn't even show up. It still shows up the same in Explorer (pic attached). So the folder even really there? I'm so very confused. I tried making a new Fonts folder in C\Windows but it just deletes the folder after I enter the name.

Steve S. wrote:I installed TC only to find that the Fonts folder doesn't even show up.

TC hides some system folders. You need to make them visible. Configuration - Options - Display.


I just added a button to the toolbar. Alternatively, you can just use cm_SwitchHidSys command in the field at the bottom of TC window to make hidden files and folders visible:


Or just use cd Fonts command (while in Windows\ folder) to go straight into the Fonts folder:

WOW! I can't believe this. On a whim I updated to 15.2.4 and now the fonts are showing up. Guess it has some sort of patch for the issue. Or something I did earlier took affect. Either way sorry for all the trouble and thanks for hanging in there with me. Hope this helps someone else!

Dwaine Maggart wrote:That said, this whole thread is about installing NEW font files on version 1809.

Font's that were already on the system previous to the 1809 version were already available to all users and should be visible in Text+.

Can you confirm that the fonts you are not seeing in Text+ were installed before or after you were running version 1809?

I hope you can increase your support for Traditional Chinese.

It's June 2019, and this post saved my bacon - thanks, all.

Incidentally, if the "Install for all Users" menu item isn't showing up (as per the earlier screen shot) it's probably because the font file is already in a font directory (in which Windows will display font groups, not individual font files). So just install from some other directory.

This is just too exhausting. I mean I need to close and reopen DaVinci Resolve everytime I need to add new fonts. When Resolve was just an Color/Edit software it was acceptable but now it has Fusion in it. Sometimes when I am working on motion graphics I need to try different fonts and usually I like to control this fonts with an additional software like FontBase or NexusFont. Because if I load too much font to my system without managing them my font list goes crazy. It becomes a list that goes to infinity and beyond. I don't want that, no one want that.

And Windows' Font managing system is also terrible, there is no categorizing or folder options. After a while I lose the track if I rely on it. Therefore an additional software is required to deal with this situation. However, like I addressed this issue about a year ago;

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=77144

Resolve's backend is incompatible with these applications. And the weird thing is that while you can see and use the fonts that installed with these application with simple "Text" Effect, you can't use them with "Text+" or inside Fusion. This is just crazy. This actually means that whatever code blocks that developers use for Text, they use completely different code block for Text+ and Fusion. I know this is a free software (at least I'm using the free version), also this is a very simple issue to fix. Just use in Fusion and Text+ whatever you used in Text.

I know Text+ is heavily depending on Fusion software but it shouldn't be that hard to add this functionality. We are in 2019. Word does it, Adobe Suite does it and this might hurt your feelings but I'm going to say it anyway.. even Notepad does it. Notepad...

In addition to them I'm really grateful that you share this beautiful software with world for free. And you actually making an amazing job so far, I need to give you that. But this is a very annoying issue. Try to picture this problem like this. You are a F1 Pilot and whenever you need to go in Pit Stop there would be no pit crew and you need to stop your engine, then get out of your vehicle, put some gas in it, change your tires yourself then get in your vehicle and continue to race like through this workflow. It sounds really inefficient, right?

Hi Everyone,
I'm on Windows 10 version 1903 - I'm having a hard time solving this problem on showing available fonts in Resolve 16 Studio. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Can someone please reply from BM - if it's impossible to fix for Windows 10 then please at least let me know. Just going dark is not the answer.

darrenracer wrote:I'm having a hard time showing available fonts in Resolve 16 Studio.

What exactly is the problem?

The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.

When these fonts were installed, were they done by an account with administrator privileges and made available to all users? If you're not sure, maybe try de-installing and re-installing as an Admin.

The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.

According to the DR manual, Fusion can have issues with fonts handled by 3rd-party font managers. Nothing about the rest of DR having issues. So since Fusion is cobbled into DR that part must be handled separately.

darrenracer wrote:The exact problem is getting the fonts that are in my system to show under the fusion titles. I can of course see all of my loaded fonts under the regular title options.

This is exactly the symptom described by Wayne in the original post, which also provides the solution.

Thank you.

R. Baris Ferah wrote:Sometimes when I am working on motion graphics I need to try different fonts and usually I like to control this fonts with an additional software like FontBase or NexusFont. Because if I load too much font to my system without managing them my font list goes crazy. It becomes a list that goes to infinity and beyond. I don't want that, no one want that.

HI!

I've the same exact problem in Text+ and MultiText
Did you solve your problem? Did you find a fix?

Oh damn... It's so frustrating in DVR! In Premiere (Adobe Suite, MS Office, etc) I never had problem.

I always use NexusFont from xiles to handle my fonts sets in my projects. I usually create a set for each client and I'm able to switch from a project to another, without install the fonts on my PC. I use a massive quantity of fonts ehehe!

Thanks for support.
Have a nice day!
K

My fonts are 33 years old. I've been using the same Adobe Postscript fonts continuously. The problem is just Zapf Dingbats. It doesn't show up in text or text + in Fusion, only in Edit page. Whatever bug is in DR, it's still not fixed in v20.

I don't get it. ALL of my fonts are Postscript, purchased from Adobe in 1992 and all but ONE typeface is available in DR.
All other software can access ALL the fonts. This is a DR problem. Fix it.

Not sure what the error is on your end then Mark, but I just downloaded and installed Zapf Dingbats on my (Resolve 19.1.4) Windows 10 machine here and it seems to be working just fine:

I have no idea. Only DR Fusion has this missing. Edit page is able to see it. All other programs, from Blender to Premiere Pro see and use the font.
I've checked on both workstations and both do not see Zapf Dingbats in Fusion page. It must be a node thing.

Certainly Resolve has a bit of a checkered history / track record with regard to font handling... there must be something about your particular version / install that it doesn't like. If you happen to have an Adobe subscription, your best bet might be to just download and install the currently available version... if not, I think you may need to try to arrange with BMD to see if they can test your non-working version of the font and see if they can see what the problem is.

That might be a good thing to try. Really, DR is the ONLY software that has this problem, so in my eyes, it's a DR problem not a font problem and they should fix it.

The more mysterious fact is that all my fonts are from the same Adobe library and all the rest load and work fine, including Zapf Chancery, Zapf Calligraphic, etc. Just Zapf Dingbats can't be accessed from a node inside Fusion.

Dwaine Maggart wrote:I'll post this here, even though no one will read it.

Yep. No one read it.

Mark Weiss wrote:...Just Zapf Dingbats can't be accessed from a node inside Fusion.

Was the font installed for 'All Users' under an administrator account?

SteveW wrote:

Dwaine Maggart wrote:I'll post this here, even though no one will read it.

Yep. No one read it.

Lol

SteveW wrote:Yep. No one read it.

I read it! :lol: