Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

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Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostTue Apr 09, 2019 2:31 pm

Hi, Resolve sometimes fill whole 6GB GPU memory. I dont want optimize effects and resolution, because it runs realtime, so it is solution buy second (same model) GPU?
In SLI it use memory only of one card, but Resolve manage cards independently. So do I will have with two cards available 12GB or compute power of two, but only 6GB memory? Thanks
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostTue Apr 09, 2019 3:04 pm

Troska wrote:Hi, Resolve sometimes fill whole 6GB GPU memory. I dont want optimize effects and resolution, because it runs realtime, so it is solution buy second (same model) GPU?
In SLI it use memory only of one card, but Resolve manage cards independently. So do I will have with two cards available 12GB or compute power of two, but only 6GB memory? Thanks


6GB for 4k is not enough.
2x 6GB won't help you with the memory issue, Resolve sees 6GB

Try to get a Radeon VII for around $700, it has 16 GB of blazing fast memory and is currently the fastest GPU in Resolve. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-AMD-Radeon-VII-16GB-Performance-1382/
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostTue Apr 09, 2019 3:06 pm

When there are more than 1 GPU, DaVinci Resolve uses the memory of only 1 GPU, the one with lower amount of memory. In order to have more GPU memory the GPU card(s) needs be replaced.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostTue Apr 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Rather, I expect it will use memory in both cards, but they won't necessarily process the same payload (a video frame for instance). That's why you can't think of it as doubling the memory and why the smallest one will still be the bottleneck.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostTue Apr 09, 2019 4:43 pm

Ok, thanks all for reply. So I will upgrade to new GPU next year.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 11:03 am

Does Davinci 17 have better memory handling or is it still the same?

Also, If you have two graphic cards and put one for gui. Say you have 24GB for gpu, and 11GB memory on the GUI card. WIll Davinci still only use 11GB "all in all". Or how does it work?

Would love to not spend the money on the rtx3090 and go with two 12GB cards instead.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 11:21 am

What has been said above is still valid for 17.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 1:46 pm

Uli, it's still not clear to me exactly how it works.
I make some example of memory's. How will Davinci use it?
Example 1
One gui card 11GB + gpu card 24GB.

Example 2
One gui card 11GB+ one gpu 16GB + second gpu 24GB
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 3:11 pm

In both cases, Resolve will be limited to 11 GB of VRAM.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 3:29 pm

With recent versions of Resolve and any modern GPU a separate GUI card makes no sense.
That's a concept from 5 years ago or older.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 3:41 pm

Jim Simon wrote:In both cases, Resolve will be limited to 11 GB of VRAM.

GUI card is not involved in processing, do you have any source from BMD which explicitly states that GUI card limits processing mem?
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 3:48 pm

I don't know if that was ever made clear, to be honest. I've only seen them say that Resolve is limited to smallest amount of available VRAM.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostWed Jan 13, 2021 7:30 pm

Yes, in the context of processing. What gui card does though is it renders just the GUI (obviously) and thus only needs the final view buffer from processing, not all sources.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 am

So, I'd suggest doing some research by changing cards and configs and find out.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 3:14 am

It's a valid theory, Hendrik. I don't know if it's correct.
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PostThu Jan 14, 2021 9:04 am

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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 9:35 am

Some incorrect infö above.

Resolve uses the GPU memory on every card it has in the system that is selected for Resolve use.
Generally it doesn't share memory to other cards.. lets not get into exceptions.
If you have a GPU in the system but its not selected in preferences, its just a waste of space.
If you have mis matched GPUs, the slowest GPU will define how fast the system can process.
If you have GPUs with difference memory capacity, the lowest capacity will define how big an image and the type of processing before its runs out of memory. The cards with extra memory waste that memory.
If you have a separate UI GPU, that's something we generally don't favor now, whereas we did 10 years ago.
If you have one more powerful and more memory GPU compared to a second, use the better one for the UI but not as UI only. It might make a little difference if the gpu performance is close.
One very powerful GPU with lots of RAM is better than two average GPUs, for many reasons....
Anyone who says multiple GPUs are a waste of time are picking a use case that doesn't need them, after all the large facilities that put 4 x 24GB GPUS in their system are spending that money for fun.
Most users will be happy with one good GPU.
All image processing is in GPU.
Some new GPUs, with the Resolve Studio version. also support compression and decompression in a hardware stage in the GPU.
GPU driver selection makes a big difference in reliability.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 9:46 am

Thank you for the clarification, Peter. My first RTX 3090 with 24GB of VRAM should arrive soon.
I am thinking about putting a second one into the system

Could you give an example where 2 or more GPUs are beneficial?
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 11:20 am

Peter Chamberlain wrote:Some incorrect infö above.

Resolve uses the GPU memory on every card it has in the system that is selected for Resolve use.
Generally it doesn't share memory to other cards.. lets not get into exceptions.
If you have a GPU in the system but its not selected in preferences, its just a waste of space.
If you have mis matched GPUs, the slowest GPU will define how fast the system can process.
If you have GPUs with difference memory capacity, the lowest capacity will define how big an image and the type of processing before its runs out of memory. The cards with extra memory waste that memory.
If you have a separate UI GPU, that's something we generally don't favor now, whereas we did 10 years ago.
If you have one more powerful and more memory GPU compared to a second, use the better one for the UI but not as UI only. It might make a little difference if the gpu performance is close.
One very powerful GPU with lots of RAM is better than two average GPUs, for many reasons....
Anyone who says multiple GPUs are a waste of time are picking a use case that doesn't need them, after all the large facilities that put 4 x 24GB GPUS in their system are spending that money for fun.
Most users will be happy with one good GPU.
All image processing is in GPU.
Some new GPUs, with the Resolve Studio version. also support compression and decompression in a hardware stage in the GPU.
GPU driver selection makes a big difference in reliability.

So, if there is a gpu selected for gui only, does it limit the memory use of processing cards or not? It is a technical question, not what users should prefer to use or which configuration is faster.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 2:46 pm

vivoices wrote:Could you give an example where 2 or more GPUs are beneficial?

I was wondering that, too.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 2:47 pm

Hendrik Proosa wrote:if there is a gpu selected for gui only, does it limit the memory use of processing cards or not?


"[Resolve] doesn't share memory to other cards.. lets not get into exceptions."
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 pm

Jim Simon wrote:"[Resolve] doesn't share memory to other cards.. lets not get into exceptions."

What has this got to do with sharing memory? Two equal gpus for processing don't share memory to each other either. Everything above single gpu is an exception.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 7:51 pm

I take this as if you want to use multiple gpus. Make sure they have the same amount of memory. Likely is best you get two identical cards. Then resolve will use the both cards full memories.
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Re: Dual GPU, how much memory will be?

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 8:00 pm

Two cards might make sense if each frame takes a long time, like with heavy temporal noise reduction. But if I understand correctly, two cards might slow down faster operations because of all the copying back and forth.

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