Manual tracking of FX

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Manual tracking of FX

PostFri May 10, 2019 12:35 am

Hi,

I am using the patch replacer on a handheld clip with a lot of motion and adding tracker points and letting Resolve figuring out the tracking is not working for the whole clip. If I was tracking a power window, at this point I'd just move to "Frame" mode instead of "Clip" mode and manually move the window which would generate keyframe data. However, when tracking FX, if I move the patch replacer in "Frame" mode, no keyframes are generated and it moves the patch relative to the automatically generated tracking data. Even the keyframe icon doesn't do anything when I click on it.

So in short, why doesn't Resolve allow for manual rotoscoping of FX like the patch replacer, in the way it does for tracking power windows? Or am I missing something?

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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostTue Sep 03, 2019 8:53 am

Exactly the same problem here. I don't get it
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostTue Sep 03, 2019 9:07 am

I and can't think out the workaround for this one
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostSat Jan 25, 2020 12:05 pm

Same question.
I also need the ability to move the tracking point out of the preview window.
For example, when adding a lens flare to the footage. The flare may go out of the video frame. But seems like FX tracker doesn't allow to move tracking points of of frame.
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostSat Jun 20, 2020 5:46 am

Mark Foster wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8H830YPhZY


Cool video, but it doesn't address the question.

To track the patch replacer you need to use the FX tracker. Problem is when the tracker doesn't do a perfect job you can't help it out manually. If you reposition the tracking point on the frame where it got lost, this repositioning is ignored in the tracking data. In other words from that frame onwards your effect still follows the track but it is now offset from the repositioned tracking point.

Has anyone found a way to manually create tracking data for OpenFX?
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostSat Jun 20, 2020 4:09 pm

OlegCherr wrote:Same question.
I also need the ability to move the tracking point out of the preview window.
For example, when adding a lens flare to the footage. The flare may go out of the video frame. But seems like FX tracker doesn't allow to move tracking points of of frame.



Have you tried keyframing the x and y position of the OFX to move it off the screen?
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostSun Jun 21, 2020 2:07 am

I never tried, but did you tried to copy the tracking info from the shape and paste in the FX tracker?
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostThu Oct 08, 2020 7:06 pm

I also think manual tracking is a must. Right now patch replace works because the ability to set x and y but not many other ofx, It would be much more useful to manually track with the frame instead of the auto tracking that fails many times.
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostFri Oct 09, 2020 2:33 am

For serious tracking, there are specialized professional tools, like Mocha. Resolve is just covering pretty basic jobs.

Think of Resolve as the general practitioner. Sometimes you'll need the specialist.
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostTue Mar 16, 2021 9:13 pm

I am having this exact problem right now; trying to add lens flare to an object that the auto tracker can't cope with tracking. I can go into 'Frame' mode but any offsets are applied to the whole clip. You can't add a keyframe either.
And as Walter suggested, I had already tried tracking a power window and then copy / pasting the track data onto the FX, but that doesn't work either. It will let you paste the data onto an FX on the same node, but it still doesn't produce the required result. This is a fundamental flaw.
My next attempt at a work around is going to be chopping the clip into individual frames and see if I can achieve it that way.
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostWed Mar 17, 2021 10:44 am

@xunile Thank you Eric... sometimes you miss the most obvious things..!!
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostThu May 06, 2021 8:27 pm

I'm on 17.1.1 Studio (Windows) and manual tracking of the Patch Replacer is still not working. How can this be after 2 years?
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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostTue Aug 15, 2023 9:10 am

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Re: Manual tracking of FX

PostThu Dec 28, 2023 11:14 am

Unfortunately, after many years this is still not solved.

The point tracker works quite bad tracking objects for objects or patch replacement in the Color tab (even on very contrasty items)
Being able to manually track with the Frame options like with the Power Windows would solve the problem.

I really have no idea why Resolve does not solve that issue.

I guess the only solution is to jump into Fusion or like Uli said in the past buy an expensive tracking solution like Moccha Pro.

I really hope some say the FX tracking will work like it should in Davinci

In any case, if you want to remove object DO NOT use Object removal or Patch replacer FX tools. These are terrible and rudimentary

Use FUSION. The BEST tutorial I have seen to remove objects and it is quite simple to follow is available in Youtube:


It will give 1000% better results than any of the 2 commonly used Davinci FX tools that most of the time give a really bad outcome
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