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LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:00 pm
by Jon O'Neill
I've created a LUT with displaycal : workspace > monitor calibration > calman

Which LUT dropbox do I add it to in the Lookup tables section in the color managment window?

The 3D video monitor lookup table seems to effect the GUI viewer as well?

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm
by Peter Fizgal
This has been brought up in the past.

A handfull (including myself) of users have this problem where applying a LUT to the external monitor applies the LUT to the GUI viewer as well. Even when the GUI viewer is set to none.

Not all GUI viewers are treated equal, I seem to recall that on some pages (I think fairlight & deliver) the LUT is not incorrectly applied to the GUI viewer, where as in edit and color it is incorrectly applied.

If you search this forum you'll find threads dating back all the way to version 12.
None of the suggested solutions have worked for me (or the handfull few others).
The issue was also not reproducable by Blackmagic so this will likely never to be solved for us.

I tried it in 16 beta, and the issue still exists.

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:30 pm
by Jon O'Neill
Peter Fizgal wrote:This has been brought up in the past.

A handfull (including myself) of users have this problem where applying a LUT to the external monitor applies the LUT to the GUI viewer as well. Even when the GUI viewer is set to none.

Not all GUI viewers are treated equal, I seem to recall that on some pages (I think fairlight & deliver) the LUT is not incorrectly applied to the GUI viewer, where as in edit and color it is incorrectly applied.

If you search this forum you'll find threads dating back all the way to version 12.
None of the suggested solutions have worked for me (or the handfull few others).
The issue was also not reproducable by Blackmagic so this will likely never to be solved for us.

I tried it in 16 beta, and the issue still exists.


Thanks

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:46 pm
by Dan Sherman
Peter what about if you give it a GUI lut as well?

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:54 pm
by Peter Fizgal
Hi Dan, I just tried that, but the issue remains.
The GUI viewer always follows what I choose for the external display.

It's as if the GUI Lut selection has no effect at all.
I'm trying with creative LUT's so the effect should be visible from miles away... but it's not working at all.

I've gone through the recommended settings (disable gui overlays...etc...), no change.

I just verified, color and deliver viewers work as expected. Edit and fairlight viewers apply the external LUT.

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:57 pm
by Dan Sherman
You should make a thread for that in the beta sub form then, as that's definitely a bug that should be fairly easy to fix.

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:24 am
by Peter Fizgal
You are probably right, I'll bring this up again in the beta forum.

But to be honest, I am more and more reluctant to report anything at all.
Every time I report anything, the outcome is always the same. It's as if I'm in an ignore list.

I understand the people at Blackmagic have a lot on their plates, but that situation is self inflicted. I am a strong proponent of fixing and refining instead of adding stuff and bloat.

Like I said, this issue is ongoing from at least version 12 (for me) and it has been brought up time and time again.
Here's a link to just one thread in the past :
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=74894

edit : for completeness, I have created a thread in the beta forum as well, hopefully this gets picked up and 'resolved' :
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=91587

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:54 pm
by bruce alan greene
Yes. I think this issue appeared after Resolve v12.

I would hope that they can fix this.

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:17 am
by Kel Philm
So its been close to 2 years and this bug still exists, I am getting pretty fed up . I've logged this with BM again over 6 months ago, no reply as usual. C'mon BM!

Re: LUT to external monitor

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:42 am
by GrizzlyAK
Kel Philm wrote:So its been close to 2 years and this bug still exists, I am getting pretty fed up . I've logged this with BM again over 6 months ago, no reply as usual. C'mon BM!


Well, this is somewhat disconcerting, given that Resolve is touted as the Industry Standard coloring platform, yet it can't reliably/correctly display colors/LUTs to the right viewers? And this has been going on for years?