Smart Bins for Offline Media

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Zeb Chadfield

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Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostSun Aug 04, 2019 10:17 am

Any ideas for showing a smart bin for offline media? I can't find a tag of any sort relating to the media being available or not.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostSun Aug 04, 2019 12:55 pm

Go to the Edit Index and in the filter (available via the "..." ellipsis to the right of the magnifying glass icon) choose "Show Offline Clips"

Not the same as a smart bin, of course, but at least you can very quickly see a list of offline clips.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostSun Aug 04, 2019 1:21 pm

Brad Hurley wrote:Go to the Edit Index and in the filter (available via the "..." ellipsis to the right of the magnifying glass icon) choose "Show Offline Clips"

Not the same as a smart bin, of course, but at least you can very quickly see a list of offline clips.


Great idea, but I can't make it work. The edit index shows nothing when selecting that option. Is there a hidden option in preferences that makes this work?
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostSun Aug 04, 2019 1:23 pm

Peter Cave wrote:[
Great idea, but I can't make it work. The edit index shows nothing when selecting that option.


Probably because you don't have any offline media?

Oops, edited to add: I just tried this on a timeline where all my clips were offline (I've deleted them) and you're right, nothing shows up. Hmmm...I'm pretty sure this used to work but it's not working now in beta version of 16.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostSun Aug 04, 2019 3:20 pm

Yea this method definitely used to work for me as well.
Haven’t tried it for months though.

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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostMon Aug 05, 2019 6:53 am

iddos-l wrote:Yea this method definitely used to work for me as well.
Haven’t tried it for months though.

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That's odd, as on my setup R15 AND R16 the Edit index will not show offline media clips and never did!
Perhaps someone knows how to make this work?
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostMon Aug 05, 2019 9:59 am

Weird!
Now I get the same results as you.
The filter is there but it doesn’t show any clips in the bin.

I am sure this used to work. Maybe it was a very old version.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostMon Aug 05, 2019 10:54 am

i think that filter is just for the clips in the timeline, not the bins.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostMon Aug 05, 2019 11:06 am

Rick van den Berg wrote:i think that filter is just for the clips in the timeline, not the bins.


According to Peter Chamberlain in the thread linked below (from 2016): "The edit index offline indication is used when you import an EDL/XML/AAF that directs to a clip thats not in the media pool even if its in the list. We will look into that description and also 'offline' indications in general."

Of course, you can see offline clips in your timeline at a glance by looking at the timeline since there's a huge "media offline" sign on offline clips, but if you have a long timeline it can be useful to see a list at a glance (and you can export the list if you need to hand it to someone to hunt them down).

Maybe the OP was asking for smart bins that would identify any media that are offline regardless of whether they're already in your timeline or not.

There's a related thread here: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=48384
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostMon Aug 05, 2019 5:17 pm

Very much about what is offline in the project. Not necessarily a specific timeline, or perhaps multiple timelines.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostTue Aug 06, 2019 6:40 am

Brad Hurley wrote:Maybe the OP was asking for smart bins that would identify any media that are offline regardless of whether they're already in your timeline or not.


yep, would be a nice feature.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostWed May 13, 2020 4:26 am

I figured it out (not that it matters to your project years later), but for future colorists looking to solve this issue, I figured out a work around that works the same as OP had intended:

On your Smart Filter, use MediaPool Properties > File Path > matches none > whatever Volume number the rest of your footage is located (external drive or server mount)

In this case, I have an external drive mounted to drive F:, so I filtered everything in this edit that is not in drive F: which is everything that is offline. Now it shows me all of the clips that are offline in the edit, which totals to 300+ (YIKES!).

This was a feature that I needed to work to give a quote on a massive reconforming project of 2000+ clips. After reconforming to the bin of source camera footage, there was still hundreds of clips that were incorrect.
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostThu Jul 09, 2020 5:41 am

[quote="drewtekulve"]I figured it out (not that it matters to your project years later), but for future colorists looking to solve this issue, I figured out a work around that works the same as OP had intended:

Thanks so much. This works perfectly
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Re: Smart Bins for Offline Media

PostThu Jan 14, 2021 9:54 am

drewtekulve wrote:I figured it out (not that it matters to your project years later), but for future colorists looking to solve this issue, I figured out a work around that works the same as OP had intended:

On your Smart Filter, use MediaPool Properties > File Path > matches none > whatever Volume number the rest of your footage is located (external drive or server mount)

thanks man! great tip
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