How about a Media Player ?

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How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 9:09 pm

I can't believe I'm even asking about this but it seems like a workable professional light weight media player just doesn't exist anymore. VLC is decent, but no LUT support. DJV, sort of. Scratch Player Free is gone, was a clumsy UI but did a lot of things pros would like, like applying a standard LUT. Whats so painfully missing is a media player that can handle pro formats, apply at least a basic LUT, maybe has media list to play thru a bunch of shots you dragged and dropped. Send video out to your BMD I/O device or full screen on 2nd GPU attached monitor. Nothing crazy. Loading up Resovle just to play your shots is clumsy on location when. you just want to have a quick look, check if a take is good, or watch a shot on a large screen for whatever you need to like a light stand or cable on the edge of frame.

Basically borrow a bunch of parts from the full version of Resolve and bring it to a mass market product to replace the hodge podge of discontinued, bad UI, not well supported, not great for pro use, media players.

its not like it would need to be free... Its an app you could easily charge $9.95 or so for. make the pro ver by adding LUT support, looping, metadata display, etc that would make it a no brainer to buy.

EDIT : Cross platform for at least OS X / Win and ideally Linux so there is a common image viewing chain.

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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 9:12 pm

What I use currently is Media Player Classic. IT can play Prores DNxHR etc. VLC is not reliable.
Scratch was great, but costs way too much.
But yes a pro player would be useful.

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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 10:19 pm

Have you tried Quickfire? I'm not sure it meets all of your requirements but maybe worth a look.
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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 10:25 pm

Will Howard wrote:Have you tried Quickfire? I'm not sure it meets all of your requirements but maybe worth a look.


Thanks, no LUTs, no h.265, didn't try pro formats. not a bad app

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Re: How about a Media Player ?

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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 10:34 pm

Telestream Switch is good.
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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 pm

Yes, but more for broadcast world.
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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 10:59 pm

you shout try mpv (http://mpv.io). it's minimalistic but very efficient cross platform open source media player, which supports LUTs, color managment, and many common codecs. it's also extensible by scripts, etc.
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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 11:03 pm

Igor Riđanović wrote:Telestream Switch is good.


the $9.99 player isn't bad, but ridiculous price jump to the pro version.

A basic free player, cheap pro player. one I could give to clients to help ensure we are looking at the same thing although most of the time these days, its via either drop box or YT private links. However on days when they will use local files the same player doing the same thing would be nice.

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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 12:30 am

LUTs in a media player don't make sense to me. The LUTs get applied during editing and baked into the export, before you use the Media Player.
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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 1:43 am

Jim Simon wrote:LUTs in a media player don't make sense to me. The LUTs get applied during editing and baked into the export, before you use the Media Player.


when scanning thru camera shots, its a lot easier to view original clips with a basic conversion LUT applied. Media players aren't just about finished product, but every step of the process.

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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 2:09 am

Igor Riđanović wrote:Telestream Switch is good.


a more detailed look reveals if you want a bunch of pro codecs like DNx or even h.264, you are into the $199 ver. , no mention of prores.

if one where to build a spreadsheet listing various player apps, maybe 1/2 the check boxes would get ticked for most of them. the open source options aren't getting regular updates. I tried MVP and 10.15 complained it wasn't updated for it, but the app ran and worked sort off ok, h.265 playback was actually pretty good.

the BMD BRAW player could actually be the starting point...

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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 8:20 am

You can play any file with small logo at top corner.
Cheapest version will play many files- including h264 and ProRes. h265 and DNx won't work as it needs license from AVID (for MXF):
http://www.telestream.net/switch/compare.htm

price changed some time ago. Old one was more down to earth.


Here is another option:

https://www.sgo.es/mistika-review/
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Re: How about a Media Player ?

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 8:43 am

Andrew Kolakowski wrote:Here is another option:
https://www.sgo.es/mistika-review/


that's indeed a very well solution -- especially for extraordinary demanding production formats!
but in practice it's more suitable for those of us, which already prefer this other software ecosystem...

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