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Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostMon Sep 30, 2024 8:38 pm

i tried to work on this page yesterday and i forgot how much refinment this page needs.

the control there is really jerky and awkward.
for example when i want to move the playhead with the mouse the resolution changes instead having the playhead move to my desired location.

Clicking Zoom to fit - zooming to fit the clip but not to the area of the keyframes.

and here are more things that has to receive some attention from the developers:

1) trimming the clip is pushing the keyframes that were set. only moving the clip should move the keyframes along with it.
2) collective trimming doesn't occur properly when i mark all the clips
3) sometimes Ctrl z doesn't effect the last action made in the keyframe page.
4) my suggestion is to make the clips color as a gradient that will help the user recognize the movement of the clip.
5) when trimming leave a dim background place holder that will indicate the original length of the clip.
6) add hotkey shortcuts of jumping frames by 5,10,20,30
7) add hotkey for cut/trim clips in the keyframe page
8) change keyframes shape to something that is more clickable than 2 px stroke
9) return the option of proxy quality at the bottom of the play panel under the timeline

And last thing please add a keyframe page to the edit page with more advanced easing options instead of having an extension under ever clip making the time line go on a mess. Just another tab in the inspector can do it...


I hope this post will get the attention of the right people.
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Re: Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostMon Sep 30, 2024 10:08 pm

What is a keyframe page?
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Re: Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostMon Sep 30, 2024 10:17 pm

Yeah, a lot of this complaint makes no sense.

"when i want to move the playhead with the mouse the resolution changes instead having the playhead move to my desired location."

Odd, it just moves the playhead for me. But I don't know what their desired location is.
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Re: Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostMon Sep 30, 2024 11:27 pm

I think the confusion comes from the fact that basic functions like moving the playhead works differently on the Edit and Fusion pages in Resolve. In the Edit page you can click and drag on the ruler at the top of the timeline to move the playhead there. You don't have to actually click on the playhead. If you do that in Fusion on the Keyframe panel it will instead change the scale of the timeline.

I don't think either is "wrong" but it shows the challenge Resolve developers face when combining all these applications into one.
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Re: Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostTue Oct 01, 2024 6:23 am

Chad Capeland wrote:Yeah, a lot of this complaint makes no sense.

"when i want to move the playhead with the mouse the resolution changes instead having the playhead move to my desired location."

Odd, it just moves the playhead for me. But I don't know what their desired location is.


*Your* desired location.
See the reply above me. He understood what I mean.



roger.magnusson wrote:I think the confusion comes from the fact that basic functions like moving the playhead works differently on the Edit and Fusion pages in Resolve. In the Edit page you can click and drag on the ruler at the top of the timeline to move the playhead there. You don't have to actually click on the playhead. If you do that in Fusion on the Keyframe panel it will instead change the scale of the timeline.

I don't think either is "wrong" but it shows the challenge Resolve developers face when combining all these applications into one.


Nevertheless, my suggestions will make the page easier to use if they apply them.
Most from what I suggested come from AE and it does make sense there.
So there is no reason it shouldn't in Fusion
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Re: Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostTue Oct 01, 2024 4:30 pm

How do you scale the time axis from a specific point in Resolve without changing the current time?

Example: You're displaying time from 10-400 and the current time is 50. How do you "zoom in" to frames 300-310 without changing the current time?
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Re: Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostTue Oct 01, 2024 8:14 pm

After a few years of users asking for it, they added a setting to make the zoom centered around the mouse pointer instead of the playhead. View > Zoom Around Mouse Pointer. Works for keyboard zoom and mouse/trackpad scroll.
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Re: Keyframe page in fusion - Can't go on like this anymore

PostTue Oct 01, 2024 8:55 pm

Thanks for the tip! Super awesome.

But thinking about it, the reason Resolve treats the playhead with such importance, such as "set the playhead to where you want to zoom from" is that Resolve assumes that the "cost" of moving the playhead is tiny. And it usually it, a few dozen milliseconds, usually. In Fusion, though, you're doing much, much more rendering, and moving the playhead might "cost" tens of thousands of milliseconds. So that's why you don't want the playhead moving unless you REALLY mean it.  
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