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Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:24 am**

Sapphire doesn't work in v18.5 b1 It will crash Fusion immediately.

The round icon that determines the focal point is not displayed in frischluft's lenscare.

When I add the Film Converter node, the unique UI does not appear and a diagonal line appears. This line appears on all nodes.

OFX with its own viewport UI seems to have problems.

Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:45 am**

I can confirm that the Frischluft lenscare round cursor for assigning depth of field doesn't appear in 18.5beta - it did in 17 and previous versions. If you type in the xy coordinates for the depth of field position it renders fine though so as a workaround you could set the position in 17 and shift to 18.5 to continue working.

Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:15 pm**

For Lenscare, you can also enter the focal distance directly.

Is it related to the video driver version? I use 516.25, it is a little old...

I reverted to v18.1.3 because I need Sapphire for a while.

Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:03 pm**

None of the native plugins work either. They broke plugins for a point release that installs over the version that does work and didn't mention this in the release notes.

Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:21 pm**

Yep, I've just spent an hour reinstalling 18 so I can run both. Even though it is a beta it would have been nice to have known.

But overall I'm still pretty impressed with the effort that's gone into the beta, particularly the USD stuff. Great to see this sort of giant first step in Fusion - let's hope the development is serious and will continue.

Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:24 pm**

@Hideki Inoue - I don't think it's the driver, as I said in my post I tested 17 and 9 and the Lenscare UI cursor worked fine on the same machine with the same driver.

Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:49 pm**

Is it specifically the cursor? All onscreen controls? Or does the issue include inspector controls?

Posted: **Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:55 pm**

JP Docherty wrote:Yep, I've just spent an hour reinstalling 18 so I can run both. Even though it is a beta it would have been nice to have known.

But overall I'm still pretty impressed with the effort that's gone into the beta, particularly the USD stuff. Great to see this sort of giant first step in Fusion - let's hope the development is serious and will continue.

Yeah, this is more an issue with the installer and release notes than the actual build. I don't mind having a beta that breaks comps. But it should absolutely be called out in the installer or install in a beta folder.

Posted: **Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:41 am**

I have been informed that sapphire works in the Fusion page of Resolve Studio. I have not tested it.

My problem is with Fusion Studio.

@Chad Capeland
Which native plugins is it? Twixtor and ReelSmart Motion Blur seem fine to me.

Posted: **Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:22 am**

Update: The cause of the Sapphire crash was its demo mode. Sapphire's demo mode shows Red X, so that may be the cause of the crash. Licensed Sapphire will not crash.

However, the unique UI is not displayed, and Parts of the image are randomly missing.

Posted: **Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:07 pm**

Chiming in with FilmConvert Nitrate - OFX overlay for the grain settings is tiny unless zoomed in... but it's also upside down :lol:

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Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:06 am**

In reply to @Shrinivas Ramani, the depth cursor in Lenscare appears as a small series of concentric circles that you can move around the image with your mouse. When you stop on a position on the image the x y co-ordinates of the location appear in two x y co-ord boxes on the tool parameter display. It is shown as pixel location x y values (e.g 0 to 1919 and 0 to 1079 for HD) in the lenscare tool - no matter what is set for cursor position display in the preferences. The lenscare tool then recomputes the depth of field focus position based on the depth channel value associated with that xy position then displays a new rendered image with the correct DoF (can take a while).

This worked fine in previous versions but in this beta the cursor is not visible and moving the mouse around the image does not change the x y pixel values displayed in the tool. If you manually change the xy pixel location values by typing into the tools x y boxes it re-renders and displays the correct new DoF image based on the depth channel values it finds at that location, so the tool seems to work fine except for the cursor display and location input.

I tried using the inspector to pick a colour for the background tool and it displayed correctly and worked fine. Hope this helps.

Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:10 pm**

Nils-does-things wrote:Chiming in with FilmConvert Nitrate - OFX overlay for the grain settings is tiny unless zoomed in... but it's also upside down

That's Color Page in Resolve, right? In Fusion Studio, only diagonal lines are displayed. Oddly enough, once I place a Film converter node, diagonal lines appear on all other nodes.

I can't wait to hear the official view.

Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:56 pm**

That's correct, on the Color Page.

Following this thread.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 3:58 am**

Beta 2 did not fix the problem. But I found something.

OFX UI is still missing, but it seems to exist, just not visible.

For example, Lenscare's focus point should initially be in the lower left corner, so you can drag the invisible UI.

I can also control Sapphire's Lensflare Hotspot. Crack of image is still there.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:17 am**

Confirmed - in beta 2 the Frischluft cursor is there, but invisible.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 11:28 am**

Just tested in 18.5b3 - although the release notes say that it addresses overlay issues with OFX plugins the cursor behaviour is unchanged, still no cursor. It's not quite invisible - if you scale down the image in a viewer you can see some sort of polygonal circle that moves when you change xy position in the DoF node.

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 2:46 pm**

Finally, this is mentioned.

Addressed issues with Open FX overlays.

But nothing has changed. Sapphire, Film Converter Nirate and Lenscare, these UIs are still missing.

What does this mean?

Posted: **Mon May 22, 2023 3:02 pm**

Hideki Inoue wrote:What does this mean?

It means that these are not the plugins that were fixed in this version.

Posted: **Tue May 23, 2023 9:29 am**

Ah - I guess I should have mentioned that my previous post applies to Frischluft Lenscare Depth of Field plug in only.

Posted: **Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:35 am**

Finally, the UI on viewport is back in Beta 4. But something is wrong.

1. The size of the UI is wrong in Film converter Nitrate.

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2. Depending on the size of source input, the image may be destroyed.

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3. Sometimes nothing is displayed, only the UI.

4. The UI does not follow when zooming and panning the viewport in Sapphire. You must deselect the node and then select it again. Edit: The UI does not appear to be redrawing. Transparent UI is present in the correct place.

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5. The final rendering may still render just black.

Posted: **Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:43 am**

These problems have not been fixed in B5.

Sapphire and FilmConverter do not render correctly. It is capricious, sometimes it is just black and sometimes alpha is zero.
When an upstream node is animated, it is not reflected correctly.
Sapphire UI redraw issue above.
FilmConverter UI size issue. Cannot resize SubView while it is displayed.

I hope they are working on a fix.

Posted: **Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:47 am**

Checked Frischluft Lenscare in FuStudio 18.5 beta - UI now works correctly, with normal display of concentric circle cursor and DofF behaviour.

Well done those BM chaps!

Posted: **Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:09 pm**

UI of Lenscare was back in beta 4. They just broke something in the viewport. Performance of viewport has been poor, and not just for OFX.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:44 pm**

The beta period is now over. Unfortunately, this issue seems to have been ignored.

Posted: **Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:18 pm**

Sapphire issue is still present after release, can this be fixed please asap.

Posted: **Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:19 am**

Yes. The Sapphire problem still exists in official 18.5. I tried with Fusion Studio and Fusion page in Resolve.

My comp is LD(6K)--Resize(HD)--s_WarpChroma

1. When panning the viewport, the UI does not follow.

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2. Sapphire nodes are not rendered correctly at random. Changing the parameters once and then reverting fixes it. But this time it happens on a different frame.

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Posted: **Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:27 am**

Disable GPU in Sapphire config solves the rendering problem. There is a UI issue, though. The latest NVIDIA driver date does not solve anything.

@sepu66, Do you have UI issue or Rendering issue with Sapphire? Which GPU are you using?

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:03 am**

About rendering issue, I found a temporary solution with BorisFX.

The idea is to turn off the GPU integration feature with Sapphire and Fusion using Sapphire's config.

Unfortunately, this solution reduces performance by 10-20%. I don't know if this is a bug or not. But BMD has changed something in the GPU feature.

UI problems still exist.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:13 am**

Finally, in 18.5.1, I have confirmed that the UI issue (it doesn't follow panning and zooming) has been resolved. Thank you! But,...
I resized the 6K footage to HD; both Fusion UIs are the same size, but OpenFX is not. Only frischluf Lenscare seems unaffected. A trivial bug?

Fusion's UI

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OpenFX's UI

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Rendering results still sometimes become RGBA(0,0,0,0). Changing some parameter renders correctly, but it happens on other frames. I must turn off "host gpu integration" in Sapphire's config This is the most important issue for me.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:53 am**

Thank you Hideki for helping narrow down the main overlay issue. We're still tracking the other reports.

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