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Need help: black pixels on certain frames in Fusion. [Bug?]

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:30 am
by Vincent Boudewijn
Hi there,

I'm looking for help fixing these dead pixels, let me describe the problem in a bit more detaill:

I’m encountering an issue with renders specifically when utilizing render passes. Randomly, a dead black pixel appears in my renders. This poses a significant problem, as when I apply the blur node during compositing, this hole becomes excessively large. This issue has recurred across multiple rendering attempts.

When viewing just the beauty pass, there are no discernible holes; they only manifest when attempting to reconstruct the beauty from the render passes.

The render exhibits a hole as depicted here:
https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/2/a/f/2af637de6e8650549d2c627c6390ee6b44e1e810.jpeg

Utilizing the blur node in compositing results in the entire hole being enlarged, as illustrated here:
https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/8/b/2/8b2898ce8935ad5b9762cb4c1f5415eb8c7c933d.jpeg

Meanwhile, the normal beauty render appears unaffected, shown here:
https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/f/c/a/fca2e2a3a7a3111742be50a0995926ea1bd85215.jpeg

The hole is only present in the GlossDirect and DiffuseDirect passes; other passes remain unaffected.

What makes it even more strange is that these ‘holes’ are only on certain frames. It’s not consistent throughout the render.

Is there a node/tool that could fill in these render errors?

Re: Need help: Fixing random black hole render errors

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:46 am
by Vincent Boudewijn
Okay, so plot twist, the hole only appears in Fusion. When I view the EXR through DJV the hole is not present. Anyone know what is going on? Very strange.

Images shows Fusion and DJV lined up:

Re: Need help: Fixing random black hole render errors

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:03 am
by Vincent Boudewijn
Also checked the frame in Photoshop, no hole to be seen. The problem really is with Fusion :cry:

Re: Need help: Fixing random black pixel render errors

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:19 am
by Vincent Boudewijn
I tried updating to the latest nvidia drivers and latest version of fusion, but the problem did not go away.

Re: Need help: black pixels on certain frames in Fusion. [B

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:28 am
by birdseye
This will be of no help or comfort to you whatsoever but you have just discovered something that would make a great headline in a science journal, 'Fusion Creates A Black Hole'.

Re: Need help: black pixels on certain frames in Fusion. [B

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:30 am
by Vincent Boudewijn
Ok, so went on a bit of button bashing.. and on the loader node changing the Process mode from Full Frame to PAL/HD Fields removes the dead pixel for me. Why? I'm not too sure

Re: Need help: black pixels on certain frames in Fusion. [B

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:59 pm
by Ryan Hays
This feels like an out of range display thing to me. What happens if you check 'clip white' in a brightness/contrast tool and bring down the high slider?

Re: Need help: black pixels on certain frames in Fusion. [B

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:23 pm
by Pieter Van Houte
Check this topic on WSL too if you want to do a little deep dive:

https://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckl ... php?t=3902

Re: Need help: black pixels on certain frames in Fusion. [B

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:53 pm
by Vincent Boudewijn
Ryan Hays wrote:This feels like an out of range display thing to me. What happens if you check 'clip white' in a brightness/contrast tool and bring down the high slider?


Tried but it did not do much. Pixel remained their and perfectly black

Re: Need help: black pixels on certain frames in Fusion. [B

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:54 pm
by Vincent Boudewijn
Pieter Van Houte wrote:Check this topic on WSL too if you want to do a little deep dive:

https://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckl ... php?t=3902


Thanks.. This is interesting!