Intelli track Points as User tracks in Camera Track

I like the new intelli track feature . First of all thank you very much BMD for that . But as a extension of that which will massively help the VFX users using fusion will be the feature to include or import that user tracked intelli trackers into camera tracker . Then it will be helpful for solving in getting less errors in camera movement . Hope that this feature will be included in the near future.

Yes, PLEASE PLEASE improve the camera tracker with support for custom tracks. Or at least import tracks from a regular 2d tracker...

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I think the new Mocha Pro 2024 does that kind of thing. It would be a nice addition to Fusion.

In the meantime I think what most people forget is that its Fusion. Meaning you can use all the power of Fusion and its node to prepare an image so that when you track you get better and much better results. While waiting, give that a try. Its quite powerful. The point being is that we can't change the tracker tool itself other than its settings, but we can use power of fusion to prepare images it tracks. Effectively giving you the same thing as if you had this feature you requested in tracker itself.

In the meantime I think what most people forget is that its Fusion.

Almost forgot that. Nodes are powerful and advanced. But why is the tracker tool unchangeable? Did they lose the source code?

Anyone tried this?

https://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckl ... f=6&t=2602

In the meantime I think what most people forget is that its Fusion.

Almost forgot that. Nodes are powerful and advanced. But why is the tracker tool unchangeable? Did they lose the source code?

Obviously I meant, you the user can't change the tracker other than what is there, although one can modify it with scripts, macros, expressions etc. But I find it far easier to simply prepare the image to be easier to track with existing tracker. You get much better results and you don't have to wait for Blackmagic to do something about the tracker itself.

In the meantime I think what most people forget is that its Fusion.

Almost forgot that. Nodes are powerful and advanced. But why is the tracker tool unchangeable? Did they lose the source code?

Obviously I meant, you the user can't change the tracker other than what is there, although one can modify it with scripts, macros, expressions etc. But I find it far easier to simply prepare the image to be easier to track with existing tracker. You get much better results and you don't have to wait for Blackmagic to do something about the tracker itself.

Obviously its a feature request and not like iam waiting for it to finish my shots. Before camera tracker was introduced in fusion a camera needs to be imported from another software . And many feature films are worked that way . But it is welcome change for fusion users to have a camera tracker inside fusion. . It is improving and in the part of improvement i am hoping for this feature and asked for it . Some times in some shots the user tracks are required and helpful in camera tracker .So it will be a good feature to have .

Anyone tried this?

https://www.steakunderwater.com/wesuckl ... f=6&t=2602

Not yet. Thanks for posting.

I'm curious as to what the practical use case is for this and how it would differ from using masks to isolate certain areas in a standard camera track?
Thinking about it I suppose it would allow a degree of manually input or correction.

I'm curious as to what the practical use case is for this and how it would differ from using masks to isolate certain areas in a standard camera track?
Thinking about it I suppose it would allow a degree of manually input or correction.

Manual feature tracks give you full manual control over what the input data for solver is. Garbage in garbage out and vice versa. There are situations where auto-generated feature tracks either aren't good or don't have any viable properties at all (too short, sliding etc). In these cases manual tracks can follow through because comper can make them work by eye. Whether it is actually something comper should do, well, it depends, it starts to slip into dedicated matchmovers (both wet- and software) territory. In camera solver which doesn't have a constraints system it might be overkill as you can't do much useful stuff with these "special" solved feature positions anyway.

A lot of people who do camera tracking full-time often don't use auto-tracking at all. It usually takes less time to make a dozen or two manual tracks that are certain to be useful than to cull bad autotracks.

Although I have to say that Fusion's automatic rejection of trackers that are clearly wrong is pretty good. It won't kill the subtle ones, like the edges of defocused lights, but it's not bad at removing parallax intersections.

To give some extra help to trackers in Fusion, I developed a method of using Sobel Filter for edge detection and few other filters to prepare the image so its far likley to be successfully tracked. Since I started doing this, my success rate has skyrocketed. I just have a group as a template I drag and drop now before the tracker to prepare the image, track it and when it is a success, I hook the tracker back to original footage. Works really well.

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Another great method is that if there is a color one can track. I use 3DKeyer or some other method to select the object by color and than track just hat on transparent background. It essentially acts as occlusion mask. Works really well with objects one can detect with color. Now with magic mask one can use Magic mask to track all kinds of objects first. Than use that for point or plainer tracker. Or as exclusion / occlusion mask for 3D tracker.

To give some extra help to trackers in Fusion, I developed a method of using Sobel Filter for edge detection and few other filters to prepare the image so its far likley to be successfully tracked. Since I started doing this, my success rate has skyrocketed. I just have a group as a template I drag and drop now before the tracker to prepare the image, track it and when it is a success, I hook the tracker back to original footage. Works really well.

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Another great method is that if there is a color one can track. I use 3DKeyer or some other method to select the object by color and than track just hat on transparent background. It essentially acts as occlusion mask. Works really well with objects one can detect with color. Now with magic mask one can use Magic mask to track all kinds of objects first. Than use that for point or plainer tracker. Or as exclusion / occlusion mask for 3D tracker.

Thanks for sharing