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I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve Studio

PostWed Dec 25, 2024 2:05 am

Hi,
I've already a license for DaVinci Resolve Studio.
So does Fusion integrated inside DaVinci Resolve Studio?
Thanks a lot for your valuable time helping me :)
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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostWed Dec 25, 2024 3:00 am

Fusion studio is basically a full blow composition standalone software that was purchased by Blackmagic, so they left it as a fusion studio (standalone) and they integrated most of it in DaVinci Resolve as a fusion page among other pages or modules.

Basically you have more or less the same power of fusion studio in fusion page, with few differences regarding supported plug ins that fusion page can share with resolve and other specialized set of nodes and functionality that allows fusion page to be integrated into rest of resolve.

Fusion Studio as being standalone application has access to all the resources all to itself, while fusion page inside Resolve has only access to some resources because the rest is shared among resolve other pages and fusion page.

Fusion studio has options to use network rendering where you can use other machines to render in network and since fusion studio is its own application, it can control everything, while fusion page, since its integrated into Davinci resolve relinquishes some control to edit page and timeline.

You can use both Fusion Studio and Resolve Studio with same license, and pretty much all you create in one you can open and continue working in the other. There is even VFX connect workflow, but its not needed, its just an option to go between working with fusion in resolve and fusion studio.

Basically if you have heavy compositing to do or your computer could use more resources to manage some tasks, using fusion studio helps. And its generally less resource hungry with network rendering set up it can handle bigger compositions more easily.

I often switch between them as I feel I can do something more easily in one or the other. Depending on what you are working on.

You can see a comparison of features here: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/pro ... on/compare
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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostThu Dec 26, 2024 5:15 am

Thanks a lot.
First time to know that I can use the Fusion Studio with the same license.
I will use the fusion studio version.
Much appreciated.

- later on edit -
After downloading the software I've found 2 .exe:
Install Fusion Studio v19.1.2
Install Fusion Render Node v19.1.2
I am not doing a render over the network, which one I should install?
I guess Install Fusion Studio v19.1.2? right?
as Node is a terminology used in networks setup :lol:
Thanks a lot for your valuable time helping me :)
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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostThu Dec 26, 2024 3:48 pm

MGadAllah wrote:- later on edit -
After downloading the software I've found 2 .exe:
Install Fusion Studio v19.1.2
Install Fusion Render Node v19.1.2
I am not doing a render over the network, which one I should install?
I guess Install Fusion Studio v19.1.2? right?
as Node is a terminology used in networks setup :lol:


Yes, if you are not using network rendering, than you can only install fusion studio and all should work. No need for Render Node installation. If you need it at some point, you can install it later.

If you need more info on render nodes and network rendering, you can go to help menu and open reference manual:

Setting Up Network Rendering in Fusion Studio


"Fusion Studio is capable of distributing a variety of rendering tasks to an unlimited number of computers on a network, allowing multiple computers to assist with creating network-rendered previews, disk caches, and final renders.

Using the Render Settings dialog or the built-in Render Manager, you can submit compositions to be rendered by other copies of Fusion Studio, as well as to one or more Fusion Render nodes. Rendering can also be controlled through the command line for integration with third-party render managers like Deadline, Rush, and Smedge.

Render nodes are computers that do not have the full Fusion application installed but do have Fusion Render node software installed. The Render node software is not installed by default when you install Fusion Studio, but it can be installed at any time using the Fusion Render node Installer. The installer is located in the Blackmagic Fusion Studio installer.dmg on macOS and the Blackmagic Fusion Studio.zip on Linux and Windows. Fusion Studio is licensed for an unlimited number of Render nodes, so you can install the Render node software on as many macOS, Windows, and Linux computers that you want involved in network rendering. "

Fusion Fundamentals | Chapter 4 Rendering Using Saver Nodes page: 96
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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostMon Dec 30, 2024 7:05 pm

I randomly came across this post. I had no idea about Fusion studio.

I do have a few questions, after reading the post and need some clarity.

1. If I buy a license key for davinci Resolve Studio, does that same license key work for fusion studio? So I do not need to buy a license key for Fusion Studio? I am only buying one key that works for both?

2. Is fusion studio comparable to Adobe After Effects? Is it just as good or better? Or do they do different things? I just ask this question as Adobe After Effects is or was the standard for certain things in the movie industry.
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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostMon Dec 30, 2024 7:59 pm

robertsaron wrote:I randomly came across this post. I had no idea about Fusion studio.

I do have a few questions, after reading the post and need some clarity.

1. If I buy a license key for davinci Resolve Studio, does that same license key work for fusion studio? So I do not need to buy a license key for Fusion Studio? I am only buying one key that works for both?


Yes I bealive so. One licensee should work for both.



robertsaron wrote:2. Is fusion studio comparable to Adobe After Effects? Is it just as good or better? Or do they do different things? I just ask this question as Adobe After Effects is or was the standard for certain things in the movie industry.


Fusion page and by extension fusion studio Is somewhere between Nuke as a node based professional compositing software and After Effects which is professional motion graphics software.

Fusion is more similar to Nuke than After Effects, meaning its node based compositing environment geared towards VFX Visual Effects, but unlike Nuke it has respectable capacity to do motion graphics as well, that makes it comparable to After Effects in that field. After Effects is more specialized motion graphics environment, and its a layer based system. So when you work with motion graphics, After Effects is probably the best, but with few caveats.

When you are working with layers as you do in After Effects, you quickly discover that layers allow you to do only so much, before you are forced to go further by using nested layers or precomps. And that again, only goes so far, before it becomes its own worse enemy. This is the main reason why for more complex compositions used in Visual Effects field, applications that rely on nodes started to be used. Adn this is true today. Nuke being the main software in Hollywood industry at the moment, not so much because Fusion is lacking is features, but for other reasons that secured contracts. Most of the things you can do in Nuke you can do in fusion. Most of the things you can do in After Effects, you can do in Fusion. Either way, Fusion is capable to do feature film, commercial and other VFX work.

This is where Nuke shines and so does Fusion, while After Effects can do it, it can be a problem if only thing you have is layers. Because the more complex the composition and needs changes the more nodes become effective and quickly blow layer based system out of the water in what you can do. Where layers are your friend in some types of compositing, for motion graphics where there is clear order of things, you start precompoing and sooner or later layers are not your friends anymore and it becomes obvious why nodes are preferred ways to work with more complex compositions.

But even with simpler things, sometimes nodes are just more flexible.

DNA Animation - After Effects vs DaVinci Resolve Fusion. Nodes vs Layers.



On the other hand, if you are doing predicable motion graphics, with 2D elements in particular, layers are often more than enough and After effects had many tools to make it efficient. The main problem beyond After Effects subscription model is that often to get After Effects really beefed up to be able to do as much as it can, you have to uaully buy and install many plug ins. Most of it that exists or existed natively in fusion, and most of the plugs ins beyond that are free in reactor. Which is free depository of Fusion goodies that runs inside fusion. Like having App store where you install new tools. Super cool.

So basically After Effects runs into trouble when layers are not enough and to get it to full potential you have to get a lot of plug ins. But because its been around for so long and has large user based, there is almost a plug in for anything and while some plug ins are gimmick, others are almost a program on its own, like Elements3D or Red Giant set of plug ins, which really boost functionality, but are not cheap either. Much of that is native in fusion.

If you want to work with VFX Fusion is more suitable than After Effects. If you want to do motion graphics, exclusively, After Effects is more mature and specialized, but Fusion is very capable in its own right. So with some skill and tools you can find on reactor and elsewhere, you can get fusion to do most if not all that After Effects can do for motion graphics, and sometimes you can do it more efficiently because of nodes, and when it comes to VFX, fusion definitely is more mature in that realm.

But keep in mind that fusion studio is standalone and fusion with almost the same features is also part of resolve, which means that unlike After Effects and Premier where you are using separate applications in resolve fusion page leverages the power of fusion for many things and there motion graphics and things you can do inside resolve are pretty powerful. Especially for motion graphics.

If you need more resources to work on larger compositions or do more VFX, fusion studio offers more specialized environment as standalone application for that.

Here are some videos to give you more sense. Sadly most of the new tutorials are from people migrating over to resolve/fusion from adobe and after effects, so many tutorials that are newer are more about making fancy motion graphics or title packs and are often very much in that mindset, missing much of what fusion was made for. So better to look into older tutorials to understand fusion.

Its hard to tell a story of all the stuff Fusion can do, but here are some videos to help you get more of a sense of vast number of things you can do with it.

For VFX use:

Anonymous - Making Of, much of compositing and water effects were done in fusion.



CON-FUSION 03 - LeBucks Ring Teaser ( Theme based tutorial ) by Vito



An Introduction to Fusion 8



Fusion 6 - 3D Texture Overview



Fusion 6 - Advanced Materials



IBC 2008 Artist Presentation - House of Secrets - NL3



NAB 2010 - Rain In Your Eyes



Fusion Particles - Spark impacts / Spawning new points from particles



Fusion Particles - Embers



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For motion graphics here are some video:


DavinciResolve Fusion - Bladebound Emblem



Davinci Resolve & Fusion - Epic Cinematic Titles! Teaser ( 100% Blackmagic )



Fusion 8 - 9 Making a 2D Logo more impressive ( timelapse )



Make EPIC Cinematic Titles for free! Davinci Resolve Tutorial



Davinci Resolve/Blackmagic Fusion - cool analog counter



Blackmagic Fusion - rotating 3D titles (free flexible template and walkthrough!)



EyeonSoftware: Ten Reasons why you need Fusion playlist. (12 years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... a4tfvRdoBs

DaVinci Resolve Fusion Basics for After Effects Users



5 Underrated Fusion Nodes in DaVinci Resolve - MotionVFX



5 MORE Fusion Nodes You Should Be Using in DaVinci Resolve - MotionVFX

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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostWed Jan 01, 2025 12:50 am

After I made the post. I looked it up, and there is a 5% difference or so between Fusion and After Effects. That 5% difference is quite vast depending on what you are wanting or needing to do.

Thanks for the help. It was a bit of information overload, but it is what I needed.
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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostWed Jan 01, 2025 1:36 am

robertsaron wrote: Thanks for the help. It was a bit of information overload, but it is what I needed.


No problem.
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Re: I am confused between Fusion Studio & DaVinci Resolve St

PostSat Jan 04, 2025 8:16 am

Thanks a lot KrunoSmithy :)
Thanks a lot for your valuable time helping me :)
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