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Hi everyone!

At my workplace we are trying out Fusion as an alternative to Adobe Products. I have a few questions:
• How suited is Fusion for 2D motion graphics?
• Can AE templates and/or plugins be imported?

One of the things that I was tasked to do is recreate a commercial with many 2D motion graphic elements. One of these is having a bunch of photos falling and settling on table under an overhead camera. Since I cant post links yet, please search After Effects falling cards template in YouTube for a visual.

Fusion is very capable for Motion graphics. see the examples here:


Falling, with rigid body dynamics here:


Explore many video here
https://www.youtube.com/user/eyeonsoftware/videos

If you use AE's puppet tool you'll miss such a capability in Fusion. But search for the Krokodove plugin demos on vimeo or the Fusion 7 webinar countdown and the work of Dunn Lewis to see its capabilities.

AE templates or plugins can't be used in Fusion.

I doubt you need physics simulation for falling photos. In case you do PM me

I did not have time to make a macro out of this, but maybe the comments help. (See attachment)

There are certain limits to this approach, I think a much more advanced look is possible with Replicate3D (or Duplicate3D if it had the same ingenious multi-input support. *cough* feature request *cough* )

I still had some tea left....

This version requires more setup work, but you have more control and nicer renderings than Particle sprites.

... talking of feature requests: I don't know if the reason for leaving out id in the Custom Vertex tools was because of unique vertices versus points, but now that we have a weld tool please allow ids in custom vertex. This limits the power of the tool to 10% plus you have to make crazy workarounds like remapping the id to a channel or similar (compare the comp), which then again gets evaluated (=pain).

Three in a row: I know this one may be hard due to caching etc. but changing upstream requests opens a hole new world or possibilities. Compare Houdinis Stamp feature.

In a nutshell imagine that I had only one ImagePlane but could push the ID of the current processed vertex in a replicate or custom vertex upstream so that the ImagePlane or any other node could react to the id.

This is the future.

Actually in houdini you can stamp any attribute but the most useful is the id.

In Fusion think of this:

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[Points]->[Replicate]
             A    | (Hidden: Change the request to the current id)
             |    V
          [ImagePlane] (Evaluates each request with the given id)


Now I could make an expression in the ImagePlane which e.g. changes the position based on the id.
The result is that I generate multiple copies.
For a transform this doesn't make sense, since it is implemented in the Replicate, but you could use it to drive any procedural changes before hitting the replicate.

EDIT: Sorry for pushing the requests in your thread. Just had to let the brainfarts go

This is quite an amazing nifty expression!
Lots to learn...
Thanks!

Apologies for the late reply. This is all quite a bit to wrap my head around at the moment but I will get get here soon enough.

@Blazej Floch: Thanks for sharing this. I was already setting up a VM with AE since I could not figure out how to solve this in Fusion.


One question is left: I want to add more photos, so I add more instances, but how do you make the green connection between image plane and instances (never seen this before..)?

Figured it out:
Instances are displayed with a green cable.
Copy imageplane with CTRL+V and paste it with CTRL+SHIFT+V to create an instance.

Hello,
it looks like this does eactly what I would like to...
but I cannot get it working, I'm new with fusion, and I don't know where to plug the loader, then I only see blue boxes faling, which is a bit frustrating...
I see it's an old topic, but any help or redirection to another similar solution would be appreciated
thanks a lot
Teebo

Teebo_FA wrote:Hello, it looks like this does eactly what I would like to... but I cannot get it working, I'm new with fusion, and I don't know where to plug the loader, then I only see blue boxes faling, which is a bit frustrating... I see it's an old topic, but any help or redirection to another similar solution would be appreciated thanks a lot Teebo

Do you have a visual example of what you want to accomplish?

Thanks for your answer.
what I have in mind is an opened book (like in the attached picture), and I'm currently working on it.
This opened book will "receive", falling from above, some pictures. and that's where I'm looking for some samples for inspiration.

Teebo_FA wrote:Thanks for your answer.
what I have in mind is an opened book (like in the attached picture), and I'm currently working on it.
This opened book will "receive", falling from above, some pictures. and that's where I'm looking for some samples for inspiration.

I see. What kind of animation are you looking for. Like a precise placement of photos on a book from above, or more like they fall because of gravity and bounce off or something?

If its the first one, than you would place the photos where you want them and animate in reverse, and if you want them more like random photos falling, you would use particle system, where you can feed bitmap image to be the particle style and you can use other particle tools, like bounce node to bounce of the book as it falls on it. If you want particles to be 3D image plane or cards or photos you can use replicate 3D which basically on one end takes 3D model, and on the other it takes input from particles and than combines them, so every particle becomes 3D model and you drive how they behave with combination of particle tools and replicate 3D. And if you want more than that you can animate additionally the 3D models themselves.

For example if you wanted to animate and control some bats flaying around or birds....



...or money....



Particles can be powerful way to interact with other objects and drive images, video, 3D models, motion graphics elements, etc.

You can do all kinds of stuff so maybe that is something to look into.



Here are few tutorials from Igor Riđanović @Hdhead that might explain the concept behind it.

Making Money With DaVinci Resolve



DaVinci Resolve Shell Casing Ejection VFX Part 1 of 2



DaVinci Resolve Shell Casing Ejection VFX Part 2 of 2



DaVinci Resolve 3D Birds Part 1



DaVinci Resolve 3D Birds Part 2



Fusion Particles - Embers



Fusion Particles - Angle grinder / Sparks