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Hi,
It has been a while since I revisit Fusion, but the current offer made me want to re-evaluate it.
The current problem that I have is a slow response when selecting loaders, very slow for h264 movies. But pretty much any loader will cause the program to stop for a second or two before been able to manipulate it, which is a lot if you think of the amount of loaders a composition will require to use.

And a playback with sound that gives me 1 fps and no sound.

Without sound the playback works fine. But in the moment I include it everything moves to a halt.

And the slow response when selecting items is worrisome.

I just wanted to know if this is a known issue or not.

Currently using the free version on a HP Z820...plenty of horse power for the set up i use.
Nothing special for the composition, just any h264 for a movie , a soft blur and exr sequence for another loader.

Bests,
Nicolas.

I have the slow interface as well on multiple machines with the free version and Studio. Like there is a pause to display the info in the Tools panel.

hmmm so I guess noone except ryan and I experienced these issues?

I have the same problem.

- The UI is horribly slow
- Buttons constantly redraw
- Zooming in the viewports is slow
- Changing viewport takes about 5 seconds
...
never had this with fusion 4,5,6 and 7.0 b1450

Both with Free and Studion version.

I went back to 7.0 b1450 and everything is fast and snappy as I have been used to.

I've seen this on laptops where the BMD version isn't registered by default with the discrete GPU. I assume there is only one GPU in the Z820?

Missed this - just posted about what sounds like similar issues.

Is it a GPU problem? I've got 4 going in this box.

Thanks.

wow,
It seems that is a common problem out there.

I am using a nVidia Quadro K4000 for a GPU, again plenty for HD resolution, on a windows 7 machine.
So I really doubt that is a GPU related thing. Again, audio making it slow? The loader of an .h264 taking a long time. Changing viewports. Pretty much I have all the problems Jan Van Akkere mentions... Maybe you should write a proper bug report and hopefully Blackmagic will listen. Since you seem to be more verse in Fussion. I am just revisiting, and wildly hoping it improves....currently my office uses a layer base composition program and I can only wish so hard for a node alternative.

Nicolas Heluani wrote:wow,
It seems that is a common problem out there.

I am using a nVidia Quadro K4000 for a GPU, again plenty for HD resolution, on a windows 7 machine.
So I really doubt that is a GPU related thing. Again, audio making it slow? The loader of an .h264 taking a long time. Changing viewports. Pretty much I have all the problems Jan Van Akkere mentions... Maybe you should write a proper bug report and hopefully Blackmagic will listen. Since you seem to be more verse in Fussion. I am just revisiting, and wildly hoping it improves....currently my office uses a layer base composition program and I can only wish so hard for a node alternative.

Hey Nicolas,
Just came across this post. I use a HP Z600 with a Quadro 4000 so a little less than yours. However, I fail to see any of the problems that you are talking about. At least I think I am looking at the same thing. I do not have nor use h.264 stuff for my work and I currently, as I type this, have a reasonable comp open and it is all very snappy to move around. The only one that takes a second is the saver, which is saving a QT DNxHD file for editorial to use. Maybe this is the same issue you are having? I will assume it is a QT issue, and how the loader and saver are written for QT. However, as I said, clicking through my comp is fast and instant. One thing I do notice and I hope is improved, is a DPX sequence of HD material from a PCI SSD drive, which can playback at 24fps on generation, will only give me at best 10 fps when you push the play button and it loads into mem. Obviously when loaded into mem it is fine. This is faster than my normal data drive, but I would expect this to give me much faster load times.

So I would think this is a QT issue with Fusion. Don't be put off by this, unless you use QT's all the time, then I will say yeah that is annoying. I would defiantly tell them about it. They do listen to what you write, and this version 8 seems to be having some QT love being put into it. So who knows?

Cheers

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the answer, it does sounds like the culprit is QT, I will test the new 8 beta and see how it is behaving.
As much as I will like to work on images sequences that is pretty much impossible to ask in the current workflow I am. But I will definitely see where this is developing, Blackmagic did awesome with DaVinci, and a new Fusion will be amazing, so I am quite exited.

Nic.

Mark Rasmussen wrote:Hey Nicolas,
Just came across this post. I use a HP Z600 with a Quadro 4000 so a little less than yours. However, I fail to see any of the problems that you are talking about. At least I think I am looking at the same thing. I do not have nor use h.264 stuff for my work and I currently, as I type this, have a reasonable comp open and it is all very snappy to move around. The only one that takes a second is the saver, which is saving a QT DNxHD file for editorial to use. Maybe this is the same issue you are having? I will assume it is a QT issue, and how the loader and saver are written for QT. However, as I said, clicking through my comp is fast and instant. One thing I do notice and I hope is improved, is a DPX sequence of HD material from a PCI SSD drive, which can playback at 24fps on generation, will only give me at best 10 fps when you push the play button and it loads into mem. Obviously when loaded into mem it is fine. This is faster than my normal data drive, but I would expect this to give me much faster load times.

So I would think this is a QT issue with Fusion. Don't be put off by this, unless you use QT's all the time, then I will say yeah that is annoying. I would defiantly tell them about it. They do listen to what you write, and this version 8 seems to be having some QT love being put into it. So who knows?

Cheers