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just saw the beta download for the new Fusion...
But: come on guys! That's a very bad idea to presuppose the very latest operating system! I know a lot of people who're not using it, because it makes (still!) too many problems. Also: experience shows that you should always use the last OS on a mac (maximally!), not the latest one, so that apple has enough time to make it work (more or less) propperly.
Especially 10.10 is (as also 10.7 was some years ago) a version that can eben be totally skipped as it's a complete mess...

Um, wouldn't that also apply to Fusion?

So, because 10.11 will likely be released in late September/early October, they should just have waited a month or so?

So when Apple started actively not giving a sh!t about their pro users, a year or so after they found a new cash-cow in the Iphone, I voiced my concerns, but when it became painfully obvious that they didn't listen to me or any other pro's, I dropped using Macs. This was in 2009, two decades after I first bought my first Mac SE|30.

Now, 6 years later, things have turned, indeed, like turned up-side-down. Now Windows 10 is praised as the best Windows ever while MacOS X 10 is regarded Apple's worst OS X release ever. The now old New Mac Pro is a joke - and surely won't be updated - and even though Nvidia is what you want in this business(*), right now, there isn't one Mac Book available with a Nvidia card, not one.

(* not a fanboy thing, it's just less hassle, everyone knows)

In the end it feels like a mystery to me, people still hanging on to Mac's for pro work, absolutely awesome monitors and build quality of their hardware is second to none - but it's a relationship like Rihanna's with Chris Brown, how long is the good looks worth the abuse?

alexgreen wrote:just saw the beta download for the new Fusion...
But: come on guys! That's a very bad idea to presuppose the very latest operating system! I know a lot of people who're not using it, because it makes (still!) too many problems. Also: experience shows that you should always use the last OS on a mac (maximally!), not the latest one, so that apple has enough time to make it work (more or less) propperly.
Especially 10.10 is (as also 10.7 was some years ago) a version that can eben be totally skipped as it's a complete mess...

Aren't you overreacting a bit? Yosemite has been rock solid for me this past year, I run the full Adobe CC suite, Resolve (both 11 and 12), and now Fusion 8 which is also being quite stable considering it's a 1st beta. I find Yosemite to be considerably more stable than Mavericks. Are you saying that you specifically have had major issues with Yosemite, or are you going by hearsay that you read online?

I'm running the beta on 10.9.5 so far without problems.

alexgreen wrote:just saw the beta download for the new Fusion...
But: come on guys! That's a very bad idea to presuppose the very latest operating system! I know a lot of people who're not using it, because it makes (still!) too many problems. Also: experience shows that you should always use the last OS on a mac (maximally!), not the latest one, so that apple has enough time to make it work (more or less) propperly.
Especially 10.10 is (as also 10.7 was some years ago) a version that can eben be totally skipped as it's a complete mess...

What issues are you experiencing that makes 10.10 a "complete mess"? It's been pretty rock solid for me on my nMP for the past few point releases.

(unlike win10 on my surface pro 3 which has blue screened a few times after the latest intel driver release.. )

Sorry your having trouble, but it's beta 1 and there's a lot more than that we've found thanks to you guys!

Yeah, I'm still on Mavericks myself as I'm worried anything newer will break my 2008 mac pro. But I just helped my sister configure her new macbook air, and I HATE where OS X is going. They actively make it hard to know where your files are, and the graphics are god-awful. I got windows-level frustrated just trying to set up basic file structure (you can't even drag a folder to the window sidebar anymore). I call it the playdough operating system, and it's clearly moving toward children, seniors, and the computer illiterate. Perhaps there will be aftermarket programs that give you back some semblance of a functional and non-hideous looking OS, but I'm really ready to jump to Linux.

Ian MacLean wrote:you can't even drag a folder to the window sidebar anymore

Just tried this on El Capitan and it seems to work fine. What am I missing?

Only issue in El Capitan are QuickTime files. They won't open.

Ian MacLean wrote:Yeah, I'm still on Mavericks myself as I'm worried anything newer will break my 2008 mac pro. But I just helped my sister configure her new macbook air, and I HATE where OS X is going. They actively make it hard to know where your files are, and the graphics are god-awful. I got windows-level frustrated just trying to set up basic file structure (you can't even drag a folder to the window sidebar anymore). I call it the playdough operating system, and it's clearly moving toward children, seniors, and the computer illiterate. Perhaps there will be aftermarket programs that give you back some semblance of a functional and non-hideous looking OS, but I'm really ready to jump to Linux.

+1
two thumbs up!

alexgreen wrote:

Ian MacLean wrote:Yeah, I'm still on Mavericks myself as I'm worried anything newer will break my 2008 mac pro. But I just helped my sister configure her new macbook air, and I HATE where OS X is going. They actively make it hard to know where your files are, and the graphics are god-awful. I got windows-level frustrated just trying to set up basic file structure (you can't even drag a folder to the window sidebar anymore). I call it the playdough operating system, and it's clearly moving toward children, seniors, and the computer illiterate. Perhaps there will be aftermarket programs that give you back some semblance of a functional and non-hideous looking OS, but I'm really ready to jump to Linux.

+1
two thumbs up!

I am ready to migrate to Linux as well. Yosemite was just the tip of the iceberg, El Capitan is a total wreck. Any movie rendered out as QuickTime from Fusion showed up as a 0 KB file size. Was able to render out uncompressed but it showed up as black in my editing software. Only thing keeping me from migrating is the cost. That and need to use Motion for title work. Otherwise very tempting to migrate to Linux in a heartbeat!