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New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:29 am
by Scott Stacy
I am preparing to buy a new MacPro when it comes out to go with the BMPC4K camera and start grading in Resolve. Big learning curve lies ahead.

Would love to hear people's thoughts about various monitors that are particularly good for grading. I'm not inclined to buy a 4K monitor at this time, as the price will come down in a year or so. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:40 pm
by Ned Soltz
I am a big fan of the Flanders Scientific monitors. Just buy a Blackmagic Thunderbolt device and add the monitor of your choice. Great set up for the new MacPro. While I have not seen it yet, there is an Asus 31.5 QHD monitor at about $3500 which would be comparable in price to some of the lower-priced Flanders monitors around that screen size. I would presume that color fidelity, etc would be a lot better in the Flanders and certainly the feature sets with scopes, ability to load LUTs etc, are far superior. And before you ask, don't even think of serious grading on your computer monitor.

Ned Soltz

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:08 am
by Nairbr
The Eizo CG246 is a good monitor if you are on a budget, it's self calibrates and you can load in LUT's. The only thing they lack is no SDI inputs, we feed ours via a Decklink card and you then use the HDMI out into the Eizo

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:27 pm
by Scott Stacy
Ned Soltz wrote: And before you ask, don't even think of serious grading on your computer monitor. Ned Soltz


Thanks for responding Ned. Yes ... this why I appreciate you responding to my post. I have my eye on the Asus 4K. Can you tell me what advantage it would be to have scopes in the monitor vs. just using scopes in Resolve and/or my NLE?

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:28 pm
by Scott Stacy
Nairbr wrote:The Eizo CG246 is a good monitor if you are on a budget, it's self calibrates and you can load in LUT's. The only thing they lack is no SDI inputs, we feed ours via a Decklink card and you then use the HDMI out into the Eizo


Thanks. I will look into this option.

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:59 am
by Ned Soltz
CineMusic wrote:
Ned Soltz wrote: And before you ask, don't even think of serious grading on your computer monitor. Ned Soltz


Thanks for responding Ned. Yes ... this why I appreciate you responding to my post. I have my eye on the Asus 4K. Can you tell me what advantage it would be to have scopes in the monitor vs. just using scopes in Resolve and/or my NLE?


The advantage to the Flanders scopes is the wide range of scopes available and the constant firmware updates they issue to provide even more metrics. Another advantage is saving computing power. Not displaying the scopes on the computer gives you more computing power for more FPS in previews. You're basically reducing the computing overhead, which could be a big thing.

I was at B&H today and checked the monitor displays, but they did not have an Asus on display.

Ned

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:37 am
by Scott Stacy
May I ask what interface you use between your Mac and the Flanders?

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:17 pm
by Ned Soltz
On one computer I have a Kona 3G (pardon my saying AJA on this board) but that of course will not work with Resolve.

On the other computer, I have a Blackmagic UltraStudio 3D Thunderbolt device and that will work with Resolve out to the SDI monitor.

Ned

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:38 pm
by Theodore Prentice
Might want to check out liftgammagain.com -ALOT of good info over there

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:30 am
by Scott Stacy
Thanks!

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:49 pm
by Razor
Eizo ColorEdge CG276 - Accepts 4K and 2K resolutions of 4096 x 2160 and 3840 x 2160 at up to 30 frames/second via the DisplayPort input then downscales them to its native resolution of 2560 x 1440. This added functionality makes the ColorEdge CG276 a practical choice for editing when working with the increasingly popular 4K and 2K resolutions used in digital television and digital cinematography.

Re: New Color Grading Monitor

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:52 pm
by waltervolpatto
Razor wrote:Eizo ColorEdge CG276 - Accepts 4K and 2K resolutions of 4096 x 2160 and 3840 x 2160 at up to 30 frames/second via the DisplayPort input then downscales them to its native resolution of 2560 x 1440. This added functionality makes the ColorEdge CG276 a practical choice for editing when working with the increasingly popular 4K and 2K resolutions used in digital television and digital cinematography.



? how this is a better choice ?

1) either you can display natively the resolution I plop in (4k/2k/DCP/HD) pixel to pixel and you do not use the whole canvas
2) or you never actually see your real output --> there will always be a scaling going on

Yes, if you have 2.5 camera and you display 2.5 to 2.5 pizel to pixel you can judge the camera, however none of the final delivery to any display (HD/2k/DCI) has that reasolution.

Is a bit like to have a HD tv and show SD with a scaler....