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Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:46 am
by robedge
I plan to purchase one of these two monitors, which are both 27" and 3840 x 2160. Looking for comments on either from anyone using one.

I've read all of the reviews, which was easy because there aren't many. There's one review of the Eizo that says that the Eizo and Dell use the same panel, but I haven't seen that repeated elsewhere.

The Eizo is US$1700 and Dell is currently offering the UP2720Q for $1600. The Dell comes with a built-in colorimeter and a hood. If I want to use Calman for Dell software, the app is another $700, which is out of the question for me financially. The Eizo warranty is five years, Dell three years. I might be able to see the Eizo before purchase, but not the Dell.

I intend to use the monitor with Final Cut/DaVinci Resolve and Capture One, splitting the app between this new monitor for the image and an Acer 27" 2560 x 1440 monitor for app controls. No room for a 31" monitor.

Thanks

Eizo CS2740: https://www.eizo.com/products/coloredge/cs2740/

Dell UP2720Q: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ul ... ccessories

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:33 pm
by Andrew Kolakowski
I don't trust Dell. Would still go with Eizo even if Dell may look better "on paper".
Dell is good as office screen :)

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:29 pm
by John Griffin
I use Dell’s and always have even going back to the days of CRT trinitrons. Why don’t you trust them exactly? The higher end ones with 10bit hardware LUT control are more than adequate for basic grading duties. I have an older UP2718Q which is similar spec and it calibrates nicely using DisplayCal. The good thing with Dell’s is that you can often get massive savings in their outlet stores and I’ve never paid anywhere near full price for either dell laptops or screens. Eizo obviously has a good rep but it’s the higher end models which this mainly applies to. In this segment there’s good choices also from lots of brands.

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:19 pm
by Chris Leutger
Several years ago I bought an expensive Dell and it had a magenta issue I couldn't figure out and I read that others were having similar issues. I went through two more from B&H before I paid more money for an NEC and never looked back. I'm not saying Dell can't make a good monitor as a lot of people use them successfully in a variety of capacities. But I trust Eizo's QC way more than I would trust Dell's. Every professional photographic print shop I've ever been in (NYC, SF, LA and Vancouver) uses Eizo's. If I could afford one, that would be an easy choice.

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:56 am
by robedge
Thanks very much for the comments. They were a good antidote to my humming and hawing. I’ve had a lower resolution Eizo CG-series monitor for several years. It has stood up and has been very reliable. I’ve decided to stick with the brand. I've arranged to pick up a CS2740 this weekend.

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:58 am
by Andrew Kolakowski
John Griffin wrote:I use Dell’s and always have even going back to the days of CRT trinitrons. Why don’t you trust them exactly? The higher end ones with 10bit hardware LUT control are more than adequate for basic grading duties. I have an older UP2718Q which is similar spec and it calibrates nicely using DisplayCal. The good thing with Dell’s is that you can often get massive savings in their outlet stores and I’ve never paid anywhere near full price for either dell laptops or screens. Eizo obviously has a good rep but it’s the higher end models which this mainly applies to. In this segment there’s good choices also from lots of brands.


Eizo is not only about higher end models at all. All their monitors are relatively good.
Dell- hmmm. It's like with PC laptops vs Mac. Eizo is consistent in every aspect, where with Dell you will always find something to be relatively worse than other bit (eg. uniformity).
Dell is much better in "office market". Bought to 2 of them for my gf and for their price they are ok.
Maybe very latest models are better, but somehow I don't believe it :)

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:14 pm
by John Griffin
Andrew Kolakowski wrote:
John Griffin wrote:I use Dell’s and always have even going back to the days of CRT trinitrons. Why don’t you trust them exactly? The higher end ones with 10bit hardware LUT control are more than adequate for basic grading duties. I have an older UP2718Q which is similar spec and it calibrates nicely using DisplayCal. The good thing with Dell’s is that you can often get massive savings in their outlet stores and I’ve never paid anywhere near full price for either dell laptops or screens. Eizo obviously has a good rep but it’s the higher end models which this mainly applies to. In this segment there’s good choices also from lots of brands.


Eizo is not only about higher end models at all. All their monitors are relatively good.
Dell- hmmm. It's like with PC laptops vs Mac. Eizo is consistent in every aspect, where with Dell you will always find something to be relatively worse than other bit (eg. uniformity).
Dell is much better in "office market". Bought to 2 of them for my gf and for their price they are ok.
Maybe very latest models are better, but somehow I don't believe it :)

This post was about a top end Dell vs low end Ezio and not a general Dell vs Ezio comparison. BTW I’d take my Dell laptop over a Mac laptop anytime (and the cash saving in my bank).

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:23 pm
by Andrew Kolakowski
Use to be PC only person, but not anymore.
Mac laptops work as whole package with every bit been relatively good (with touchpad (also Retina technology with its scaling) been unmatched by any PC laptop+ goodies of OSX itself). I agree that price is crazy these days (specially in non-US countries).
I've tried 2 Dell XPS laptops and both were sent back (problem with keys, camera, touchpad and dreaded coil noise!). For now I'm fine and won't be changing my private 5 years old Pro 13 inch model. There is simply no need :D I also have newer 15inch for work, but those old ones are more robust.

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:19 pm
by robedge
A follow-up...

Before going ahead with the 3840x2160 CS2740, I also spoke with B&H and my favourite NY dealer, Foto Care, about the CG279X. The CG279X has lower resolution (2560x1440), and costs more, but there’s an argument for it. Both stores essentially recommended that I purchase the CS2740. Although not central to the decision, the choice was made easier by the fact that I already have an X-Rite i1Display Pro calibrator.

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:54 pm
by John Griffin
I can't go back to 1440 27" screens as the pixels are too noticeable at viewing distances. Maybe there are reasons for the color being better but the image just looks too digital compared to a 4k screen of the same size. YMMV

Re: Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 vs Dell UltraSharp UP2720Q

PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:37 pm
by robedge
John Griffin wrote:I can't go back to 1440 27" screens as the pixels are too noticeable at viewing distances. Maybe there are reasons for the color being better but the image just looks too digital compared to a 4k screen of the same size. YMMV


I was particularly interested in what Foto Care had to say. In business for 50 years, with a working relationship with some of the most important photographers in the U.S., and the dealer that I purchase cameras from, Foto Care is particularly strong on still photography.

The fellow that I dealt with thinks that 3840x2160 is the way to go even for stills. That view somewhat surprised me. As an Eizo dealer, his view is that there is no meaningful difference in quality of colour, for my needs, between a CS series monitor and a CG series. The CS2740 has presets for Adobe sRGB and Adobe RGB, but it's possible to fine-tune these presets for Rec.709 and P3 if one thinks that's necessary.

As mentioned earlier, I have an older ColorEdge Eizo, 24" 1920x1080, with internal calibration. In other words, in its day top of the line. It still works beautifully, but I have it 3000km/1900 miles away, in another country, and it's not for video. The CS2740 is similar in build quality and layout. It isn't pretty. On the other hand, some months ago I purchased a very sleek, quite expensive, Asus 32" ProArt monitor, glowingly reviewed on the internet, that I wound up returning due to a number of problems before even getting to build quality.

This September 2020 Webinar is worth watching for info on what to look for in a monitor and using one for colour work. The presenter woks for Eizo, but most of what he says is not brand dependent. It's a pretty informative presentation:




Cheers