Built-in hardware calibration Question

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Built-in hardware calibration Question

PostSat Jan 08, 2022 6:04 pm

I’m trying to understand Monitors-Color Calibration with “Built-in” Hardware calibration colorimeters. I have a new Dell UP3221Q monitor which has a “Calman Powered” built-in colorimeter. I’m sure it all works as intended but I am new to the built-in colorimeter world, and I can’t seem to figure out how to have any confidence with the built-in calibration. I have the monitor connected to a 2019 Mac Pro.

This monitor calibrates to Its own internal hardware / software. In other words, it can calibrate without being connected to any computer. I know the Mac/gpu has some influence to the color profile via Colorsync, so my question is, How does the monitor — when calibrating— take in to account any color influence that comes out of the Mac/GPU when the calibration process does not include the display output of the Mac Pro/GPU ? P.S. no one at Dell has been able to answer this question.

From what I can tell, the monitor does not report back to the Mac any LUT/profile once it has run through the calibration process. In the old days, I’d use an external colorimeter, which took into account the Mac/ LUT/Colorsync profile, so you adjusted for the entire image display path. —Uggg what am I missing

Any help would be very (very) much appreciated.

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Craig
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Re: Built-in hardware calibration Question

PostSat Jan 08, 2022 7:29 pm

This is where the bmd ultra studio monitor devices come to play. They connect to your mac thru thunderbolt and have an output of sdi/hdmi. This bypasses the color management of your os/gpu, and thus gives the cleanest signal possible. You can use displaycal with an external probe to send test patterns over the ultra studio monitor, make a 3D lut, and send this lut thru a lut box or to the internal lut of the monitor. Or you use the internal calibration of the monitor if its accurate enough.

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Re: Built-in hardware calibration Question

PostSun Jan 09, 2022 12:16 am

You just need to feed it a 'pure' signal. For that, you'll need an interface by BM. I use the UltraStudio 3G.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: Built-in hardware calibration Question

PostSun Jan 09, 2022 1:59 am

Thanks Uli,
I hadn't though of pulling the OS/gpu out of the path. I'll head over to the BMD site and have a look. I need a solution that can do HRD10 in 4k. I have a gig coming up that is all HDR. My alternative was to dump the Dell (which is HRD10 certified) and go back to NEC

Looks like a DeckLink miniMonitor 4k is the right choice for me. Thanks for the kick in the head -- to realize that I can simply avoid the OS/GPU....

Thanks a lot,
Craig
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Re: Built-in hardware calibration Question

PostSun Jan 09, 2022 3:10 am

Not only can, but should!
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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