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Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:09 am
by Preben Randhol
Hi

I'm wondering if one can convert CDNG to BRAW in some way for archiving unedited footage? I mean CDNG from e.g. BMPCC OG or Sigma fp.

Thanks in advance

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:11 am
by Hendrik Proosa
No.

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:49 am
by Uli Plank
I'd suggest EXR, for space use RGB half with mild compression, that will be enough. Since it's part of the ACES specs, it should be most future proof.

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:26 am
by Hendrik Proosa
To add to Uli’s suggestion, exr compression schemas are either mathematically lossless (zip1, zip16, PIZ, RLE) or visually lossless (DWAA, DWAB). And then some very specific methods meant for cg renders with lots of smooth gradients (pxr24) and methods ones no-one uses (B44, B44A).

If you want smaller files with some lossy compression use either DWA variant and test which compression level is reasonable for your case. Default level is visually lossless so if you need a good ballpark you don’t have to change it.

ACES specs define half float exrs with ACES2065-1 colorspace and no compression as a standard. Any compression is non-standard ACES container but it doesn’t really mean much in practice.

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:09 am
by Kays Alatrakchi
Preben Randhol wrote:Hi

I'm wondering if one can convert CDNG to BRAW in some way for archiving unedited footage? I mean CDNG from e.g. BMPCC OG or Sigma fp.

Thanks in advance


Trust me you're better off keeping it as CDNG. If you're worried about drive space, get yourself this: https://www.slimraw.com

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:00 am
by ShaheedMalik
I want Blackmagic to make a converter for it. I can't use BRAW on my Production 4K, so at least let me convert to BRAW.

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:40 am
by Mark Foster
ShaheedMalik wrote:I want Blackmagic to make a converter for it. I can't use BRAW on my Production 4K, so at least let me convert to BRAW.


even though BRAW is not a 100% RAW format, there is no way to re-interpret
the sensor data necessary for RAW.

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:53 am
by Hendrik Proosa
Mark Foster wrote:even though BRAW is not a 100% RAW format, there is no way to re-interpret
the sensor data necessary for RAW.

If it can be done in camera it can be done outside camera. I see the ”its impossible” statement floating around a lot but no-one can actually tell what makes it impossible. Sensor profiling and some custom per-camera data? Well, just create a ”reference profile” and use that, same camera models are not so wildly different it is impossible to generalize them to off-camera profile.

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:42 pm
by Howard Roll
Braw conversion is already available on a couple dozen cameras via the Video Assist so the impossible argument holds zero weight.

Good Luck

Re: Can one convert CDNG to BRAW?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:05 am
by ShaheedMalik
Blackmagic made it in camera, they can make a converter or in Resolve.