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Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostSun Aug 11, 2019 2:54 pm

Does the Blackmagic eGPUs still not work for Windows? And if so, why is that? I would love to able to use it in Bootcamp, or a Windows Laptop.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostSun Aug 11, 2019 4:30 pm

Yes it works.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 4:24 pm

As far as the Pro goes, it does not. Windows detects it, but can fine no drivers to get it to work.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 10:21 pm

Chris Chiasson wrote:As far as the Pro goes, it does not. Windows detects it, but can fine no drivers to get it to work.


Try this https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/apple-boot-camp
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostWed Aug 14, 2019 11:44 pm

MishaEngel wrote:
Chris Chiasson wrote:As far as the Pro goes, it does not. Windows detects it, but can fine no drivers to get it to work.


Try this https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/apple-boot-camp


Not seeing Mac Mini on that list.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 1:44 pm

Chris Chiasson wrote:Not seeing Mac Mini on that list.


Mac Mini has a intel iGPU.

I thought that you wanted a driver for your eGPU for windows(bootcamp).
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 2:20 pm

MishaEngel wrote:
Chris Chiasson wrote:Not seeing Mac Mini on that list.


Mac Mini has a intel iGPU.

I thought that you wanted a driver for your eGPU for windows(bootcamp).


Yes, Mac Mini’s internal is Intel. That’s why I got the Blackmagic external AMD gpu to make up for it. But it doesn’t seem to work in Windows bootcamp.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Chris Chiasson wrote:
MishaEngel wrote:
Chris Chiasson wrote:Not seeing Mac Mini on that list.


Mac Mini has a intel iGPU.

I thought that you wanted a driver for your eGPU for windows(bootcamp).


Yes, Mac Mini’s internal is Intel. That’s why I got the Blackmagic external AMD gpu to make up for it. But it doesn’t seem to work in Windows bootcamp.


https://support.apple.com/mac/mac-mini

Or call Apple, you paid enough to expect some service.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 3:36 pm

Check out egpu.io and if those folks don't have a solution, you can forget it.
No, an iGPU is not enough, and you can't use HEVC 10 bit 4:2:2 in the free version.

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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostThu Aug 15, 2019 4:18 pm

Uli Plank wrote:Check out egpu.io and if those folks don't have a solution, you can forget it.


Their solution is a mod, specifically to remove Apple’s drivers, and replace them with bootcamp drivers that void the warranty. Which was not what I was looking for. Gonna assume it simply doesn’t work officially since Blackmagic says on their own page that it doesn’t work yet. Which sucks, since I like the device. Guess I’ll just return it.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostWed Jan 12, 2022 6:37 pm

Hi!

Blackmagic eGPU workes with my Windows Laptop. I only needed to install the drivers. But if you mean Windows on a dual MacBook boot, I don´t have experiences.

I do have another issue though, my egpu works but it is not charging the laptop, anyone knows what could it be? It should charge out 85W and my laptop only needs 65W, so I guess it should work?

Tnx for any suggestions!
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostWed Jan 12, 2022 9:49 pm

Does the Blackmagic eGPU work with the Mac Mini 2018 i7?
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostThu Jan 13, 2022 1:59 am

Yes.
But if you don't have it yet, I'd think twice. It'll be obsolete with M1 Macs and even the Mac mini M1 is faster without it than the Intel ones. On Windows, the popularity of eGPU is also declining, since you can get pretty strong GPUs in a laptop these days.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostThu Jan 13, 2022 6:38 pm

Uli Plank wrote:Yes.
But if you don't have it yet, I'd think twice. It'll be obsolete with M1 Macs and even the Mac mini M1 is faster without it than the Intel ones. On Windows, the popularity of eGPU is also declining, since you can get pretty strong GPUs in a laptop these days.

Thanks Uli. So you are saying that the Mac mini M1 is faster than a Mac mini Intel + eGPUD. Do you know if the Mac Mini M1 can use the BM eGPU and is there an advantage? I'd like to get a Mac Mini as my secondary workstation.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostFri Jan 14, 2022 2:58 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:So you are saying that the Mac mini M1 is faster than a Mac mini Intel + eGPUD.


This will vary depending on the specific task. The current crop of Apple Silicon chips are all laptop-focused rather than desktop-level performance focused. The GPUs they include are very powerful for their class of chip, but they are not quite competitive with high-end GPUs as one would want for every-day color grading, compositing and the like.

It kind of makes sense that Apple would hit this area first as a significant part of their sales is made up of portable (laptop) solutions. I would expect more performance-focused pro-level solutions to be out soon though as they are already over a year into their transition.


Do you know if the Mac Mini M1 can use the BM eGPU and is there an advantage?


There is no eGPU support at all on the Apple Silicon machines.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostFri Jan 14, 2022 3:37 pm

It also depends on the eGPU. If it's the older mid-level Radeon 580, yes, it'll be faster in most tasks.
For the price of the eGPU Pro plus a mini M1 (since you considered that), I'd rather get the MacBook M1 Pro base model. It'll be twice as fast. Oh, and it'll save quite a bit on your bill for electric power.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostFri Jan 14, 2022 3:42 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:
Uli Plank wrote:Yes.
But if you don't have it yet, I'd think twice. It'll be obsolete with M1 Macs and even the Mac mini M1 is faster without it than the Intel ones. On Windows, the popularity of eGPU is also declining, since you can get pretty strong GPUs in a laptop these days.

Thanks Uli. So you are saying that the Mac mini M1 is faster than a Mac mini Intel + eGPUD. Do you know if the Mac Mini M1 can use the BM eGPU and is there an advantage? I'd like to get a Mac Mini as my secondary workstation.


Currently Apple Silicon does not support eGPU and, in my honest opinion, they will never do. At least M1, M1Pro and M1Max
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostSat Jan 15, 2022 1:10 am

Correct. I was referring to the Intel mini with eGPU vs the M1 without one.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostTue Jul 19, 2022 7:57 pm

Now is July 2022 and it still does not work a PC. I am able to install the latest AMD Pro drivers on Windows 11 Pro since it will detect the Blackmagic eGPU as a Thunderbolt 3 Device but then that's it. If anyone managed to get it Work on a Windows PC I would be interested to know how.
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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostWed Jul 20, 2022 2:35 pm

The best place to get help is egpu.io .
No, an iGPU is not enough, and you can't use HEVC 10 bit 4:2:2 in the free version.

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Re: Blackmagic eGPU and Windows

PostWed Jul 20, 2022 5:34 pm

Uli Plank wrote:The best place to get help is egpu.io .

Thanks, I am trying there too. The Blackmagic is an awesome product in design and is small and quite. I just cannot believe that I am the only one with this issue.

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