Show clip colors on multicam timeline

Multicam timeline clip colors can only be changed in the MC timeline, one-by-one, not in master bin. With 3 cameras and tons of clips, it is frustrating to apply a color to each camera, which is needed for the color page. It helps when copying grades to similar shots of one camera.

As it is, I created a keyboard shortcut to apply color to a clip, which helps a bit. Since there is no way to "select" vs goto the next clip, I've been clicking and keyboarding for 10 minutes, just for 1 of 3 timelines.

If clip color selections in the master bin transmitted to multicam timelines, the whole process for all 3 timelines would be ~20 seconds.

I'm a little lost.

I think my explanation is clear.

Have you tried changing clip color in a multicam timeline? You can't do it from the master bin like you can for a regular clip (all at once with multi-select).

I might be misunderstanding because of how you use the terms.

Multicam is really more of a Compound Clip than a timeline, so when you say changing colors of a Multicam timeline, are you referring to the Multicam Clip, or the timeline that holds the Multicam clip?

I have no problem changing the color of a Multicam Clip from the bin.

We can't yet change the color of any timeline.

So this is why I'm a bit lost.

I'm referring to the multicam compound clip. As I mentioned, changing the clip colors in the bin does not effect the clips in the MCCC The source timeline is effected but I need to see clip colors in the MCCP.

OK, I think I'm following.

You want the Clip Color of the Multicam to be automatically transferred to the original clips used to create the Multicam?

Or am I still off?

No. Changing clip color in the bin doesn't affect the clips in the multicam timeline. They remain green regardless of the color they are set to in the bin.

As I see, you can only manually change the clip color (in the multicam timeline), one-at-a-time, which for a complex production takes forever.

One more try.

You have a cut up Multicam clip in a timeline, and you want to assign colors to the different angles?

Thanks for helping! Yes that is my hope. From your response, I feeling multicam cuts are preventing that somehow. If so, you have answered my question.

I don't understand why there is this limitation. I am able to manually assign colors to the cut clips in a multicam timeline, but not via the bin.

Other cut-up clips in regular timelines accept color assignments set in the bin, all at once. If a bin clip is made orange, all the pieces in the timeline turn orange.

I don't believe what you want would be possible, as a Multicam clip is an independent entity, a type of Compound Clip in its own right.

You can get there if you Flatten the Multicam, though.

I don't understand the purpose of flattening a multicam clip, since it is visualized as a single track. The manual doesn't go into depth on this. My current workflow is...

Create multicam
Make cuts to compound clip
Manually color-code every clip by camera (my issue)
Color grade (with lots of copy/paste of grades)

Is there any other benefit to flattening than allowing clip coloring by way of the bin? I have read about the limitations and am concerned.

I guess I could experiment with a timeline duplicate.

Flattening the Multicam clip is the conventional workflow, as it converts the Multicam clip edits to the original source clips. This now means you are grading the clips instead of the Multicam "container". Any clip colours you assigned before creating and editing your timeline will now be visible in the flattened timeline.
ALWAYS dupe your timeline before flattening!

It's also worth reading about Remote Grades in the timeline as you can have all timeline instances of a source clip all grade together as a linked group without any complex setting up required.

You are kind of doing it the hard way, Nick.

In addition to Peter's advice, you can use Groups, Shared Nodes, or right click on one of the Multicam segments from the Edit page and Open in Timeline to get access for coloring the original clips.

Okay I understand. One thing. Just found this marvelous BMD vid that shows doing a radio/angle edit prior to flattening...

I'm working on the 3rd of 3 multicams for a 3 day shoot. This may not be the best, but so far (prior to flattening - and same as in the BMD video) I have...

Set in/out points using colored markers (except he used I/O points), based on dialog.
Performed all ripple deletes
Selected camera angles for the whole 3rd multicam clip (~200 angles per multicam clip)

So now I flatten and move to color? Then back to edit for transitions, audio tweaks, etc.?

Wow I can see that remote grades are indispensable for this sort of editing. All that copy/pasting for nothing. Been doing it forever

When I flatten (I will tomorrow), will the color page still show all the angles as individual clips? Then I remote grade one and all from the same source clip will match?

When you flatten, all timeline clips become original source media clips. You can't go back or choose other camera angles as it is a one-way process, which is why you should ALWAYS make a duplicate before flattening and grading/adding transitions. If anything needs to be recut you can copy/paste from the Multicam version of the timeline and paste on top of your flattened timeline to make changes which you can then flatten again. Or you can make changes to the Multicam version, copy those changes, then paste to the flattened timeline and flatten the new bits. If you think about how it works you can design your own order, based on the project requirements.

Okay I think I understand. So my takeaway is...

Duplicate multicam clip before flattening
Flatten only after finalizing cuts and angles. If needed, copy/paste from duplicated MCC and flatten again
Then... grade, transition, etc.

Remote grading requires flattened multicam timeline.

(~200 angles per multicam clip)

Say what now?!

You had 200 cameras rolling at the same time?!

Not quite. I meant 200 scene changes (blade cuts) by 3 cameras

I am not able to get this workflow working. Prior to flatting, I assume it makes sense to make radio edit.

Once I flatten, the multicam viewer stops working, so choosing camera angles no longer possible. I guess I would need to choose angle cuts before flattening.

For me, part of choosing angles is applying transforms (zoom, position, etc.), but Davinci does not like this approach.

If I change angles and apply transforms to the snips (prior to flattening), they are not consistently applied. The default zoom gets screwed up and transforms are applied to other snips in an unexpected way.

1. Go through the entire timeline without stopping, cutting as you go.
2. Do a second pass of the timeline, trimming the cuts and tweaking as necessary.
3. Copy the timeline so you have a backup.
4. Flatten the Multicam
5. Do your transforms.
6. Do your Color work.

You mean like on avid media composer ? have the color of the original clip to visualize it on timeline faster?

You mean like on avid media composer ? have the color of the original clip to visualize it on timeline faster?

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