Playhead in Color page to stay in the same potision?

In Color Page there MUST be an option so the playhead should remain as it is,
when I mouse click at any clip in the timeline.

Editing hundreds of clips is frustrating when I click a clip and the playhead automatically is moving to that clip. I didn't ask to do that
Therefore, we do not have full control of the playhead as we have in the Edit Page.

I don't think would be possible and have the Color page still function properly. Selecting the clip has to move the playhead for you to see that clip in the Viewer.

I don't think would be possible and have the Color page still function properly. Selecting the clip has to move the playhead for you to see that clip in the Viewer.

It can function properly. Going from Color to Edit works. If you go from Edit to Fusion, it also works.

Color page is quite different but also in many ways the same to edit page, people don't often realize that. Did you know you have up to four playheads in the color page? Should we request the same in the edit page?

Look, I got four playheads controlling four clips in at least four different ways.

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I think people asked for this before. Technically it works the same way as edit page. People just don't realize it. If in the color page, you switch the node tree from clips to timeline, the viewer in color page is the same as edit page. As is the mini timeline. Moving between color page and edit page also honors the location of the selected clip. its just that people don't realize that timeline viewer is usually a viewer of the timeline on the edit page, with all the clips on the timeline. And when you click on a clip in the timeline the location is honored in the equivalent timeline on the color page. They are the same.

When you click on each clip in the thumbnail, you basically same type of timeline as if you loaded a clip into source monitor view on the edit page. You can confirm this if you double click on the clip on the edit page and load it into source viewer. Will the playhead move to the beginning each time? But viewer in color page is much more powerful and versatile its its own thing. There are no cut tools to edit in the color page, its a different animal. I don't know what kind of work you do to rely on position of playhead between clips on the color page, but I don't think that is the intention.

Make a compound clip of everything on the timeline and go to edit page. Tell me if they are not the same thing and playhead does not same on the same position? Between edit page and color page. People don't understand that when they are clicking on thumbnails in the color page, they are working on not one track, but multi track. Every clip thumbnail is positioned next to each other, regardless if they are on first or last track in the edit page, because that is the way color page is meant to be used for speed and task it is designed for. There quite a few important reasons for this. One is grading in groups and copy pasting grades that is not something edit page needs to do. The other reason is moving from one clip to the next, often short cuts, and you can just move to the next shot and next shot covering the whole timeline and continue grading or use clips to grade based on groups. Color page has no cutting the timeline tools. Its designed for something else and this method works quite well.

Trying to make it behave like edit page is like trying to color grade a feature film on the edit page. Why would you do that?

Color page can have versions of grades, and now we even have node stacks, process quite different than that of editing clips in edit or cut page. These are not accessible on the edit page, not to mention its further downstream the image processing chain. Like I said you can have up to four playheads and four clips in same monitor on multiple tracks and multiple node stacks and many more nodes. Have you ever check the number of different modes you can use to check your clips on the color page? Color page is not edit page, and that is a good thing. More options for all kinds of users. Great. But I think many users should first learn the reasons why things are the way they are before asking for something new. That's fair, would you agree?

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If you click between the clips on the color page and no other function to view them differently was performed, than keeping the playhead where it was last would be ok I guess. Interestingly, the other day someone on the edit page requested the reverse. They wanted the play head to reset to the start of the clip when they select the clip on the timeline.

Going from Color to Edit works. If you go from Edit to Fusion, it also works.

Not sure what do you mean by "works" here. Can you clarify?

Going from Color to Edit works. If you go from Edit to Fusion, it also works.

Not sure what do you mean by "works" here. Can you clarify?

If you are in the middle of a clip on the edit page, When you switch to fusion, you will be at the exact same point in the time.

Currently how Color works, if you are in the edit page and you click color, it will go to the start of the clip. So, now you have to go find whatever position you were at in the timeline, when it could've honored it in the first place.

Currently how Color works, if you are in the edit page and you click color, it will go to the start of the clip. So, now you have to go find whatever position you were at in the timeline, when it could've honored it in the first place.

That's not what happens. If you are in the edit page it will honor the playhead position when you switch to color page. It will open the clip under which is playhead in the viewer and park the playhaed at the same location as it is in the timeline of the same clip. It treats it as a separate clip because that is how color page is designed to work and expected to work.

If you want to go to the same location of the timelime entire lenght and not just one clip you need to be in the timelime mode of the color page to mirror the timelime mode of the edit page. Otherwise color page works with individual clips which honor the playhead position of other pages until you start to work with them independently from other pages, because processing happens downstream and there are things you can do in color page that you can't in other pages. So the viewer in color page, becomes similar to source viewer in the edit page. Honoring the in and out range of the clip as if it was sourced. Since you can have multiple in and out points on the same clip using duration markers for example, color page will open them as individual clips with time timecodes displayed based on preference. Timeline timecode or source timecode.

When you click on individual clip thumbnails in the color page you are working from start of the clip because they are technically independent from each other and can exist as layered tracks as well. If you want to move the same way timelime does, you have to be in the timelime mode. The only thing I see that could be added is that when you switch from one thumbnail to the other in the color page that the playhead stays in the position from previous selection. But that is a separate thing from edit page.

Currently how Color works, if you are in the edit page and you click color, it will go to the start of the clip.

That's not normal. Switching pages will not move the playhead.

I've only ever seen this violated when clips are filtered.

Currently how Color works, if you are in the edit page and you click color, it will go to the start of the clip. So, now you have to go find whatever position you were at in the timeline, when it could've honored it in the first place.

That's not what happens. If you are in the edit page it will honor the playhead position when you switch to color page. It will open the clip under which is playhead in the viewer and park the playhaed at the same location as it is in the timeline of the same clip. It treats it as a separate clip because that is how color page is designed to work and expected to work.

They must've updated this in 19.1.1 then. I was working on a project that was done mostly in Resolve 19.0.3, and I kept having to find the spot I was working on in the edit page on the color page.

They must've updated this in 19.1.1 then.

I haven't seen this change since I started with version 12.5.

there is another thread where this behaviour is discussed, in color it break fairly easy:

1) have 5 shots on top of each other, 2 second length (a composite of some sort)
2) go to color part at 1 second mark, top shot is selected
3) with the mouse, in teh timeline region, tap on the second shot to select that

a) the expected behaviour is that now you can color teh second shot and the playhead DID NOT MOVE
b) the current behaviour is that the playhead is slammed at the beginning of the timeline and not left alone at teh 1 second mark.

this is really annoying.

in fusion you can jump on ANY tool and the playhead does not move.

a) the expected behaviour is that...

...the playhead will honor Preferences>User>Color>Automatically cue.

Which it does.

If we want to work on a different clip under the playhead without moving the playhead, we can already do that by Disabling the V tracks.

a) the expected behaviour is that...

...the playhead will honor Preferences>User>Color>Automatically cue.

Which it does.

If we want to work on a different clip under the playhead without moving the playhead, we can already do that by Disabling the V tracks.

We’re already had this discussion: if I’m evaluating a color of dissolved clips, I simply CANNOT disabling a track, they have to be evaluated together, and the play head SHALL NOT MOVE if i select a diffent clip in the mini timeline.

My point still stands.

there is another thread where this behaviour is discussed, in color it break fairly easy:

1) have 5 shots on top of each other, 2 second length (a composite of some sort)
2) go to color part at 1 second mark, top shot is selected
3) with the mouse, in teh timeline region, tap on the second shot to select that

a) the expected behaviour is that now you can color teh second shot and the playhead DID NOT MOVE
b) the current behaviour is that the playhead is slammed at the beginning of the timeline and not left alone at teh 1 second mark.

this is really annoying.

in fusion you can jump on ANY tool and the playhead does not move.

This is what I experienced. So they didn't fix it at all.

a) the expected behaviour is that...

...the playhead will honor Preferences>User>Color>Automatically cue.

Which it does.

If we want to work on a different clip under the playhead without moving the playhead, we can already do that by Disabling the V tracks.

We’re already had this discussion: if I’m evaluating a color of dissolved clips, I simply CANNOT disabling a track, they have to be evaluated together, and the play head SHALL NOT MOVE if i select a diffent clip in the mini timeline.

My point still stands.

Facts. I had this issue with a transition. You have to look at both clips to properly evaulate.

Yes, please, +1!

I've encountered this problem many times as well. When I had a PIP over another video (but not the entire length), the playhead moving was quite annoying.

Editing/coloring my first full length doc and this repositioning, jumping, autoselection is driving me insane.
Like actually, literally kuku.

I think I'll create a petition to change this, because I'm not the only one who find this behavior *extremely* disruptive...

A great many people agree with you and have asked for this change for years.
BMD knows but it’s not a democracy so they’ll do what they’ll do.

Still I hope yours is the voice that somehow gets this to happen.

+1
It's annoying when you have multiple layers of video. In a non-colorists world, you can have a bunch of takes layered above each other. Having the play head stay still when you select a clip above or below the one you're on would be great. It's not super painful as it is but it is one more thing to keep track of.