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DVD authoring / burning

PostThu Apr 24, 2025 4:34 pm

Yeah yeah yeah... bring back records and 8 tracks old man. But as we all know, streaming quality sucks. There's no way other than a proper blu-ray or 4k blu-ray to get full quality (clunky ISO > PC > TV options aside.)

Ad*** used to include / offer Encore which, at the time, was amazing authoring software. Currently there are no / few / hard to find good disk burning software options. Soap box: it's an absolute shame that quality is being sacrificed for convenience. Resolve to the rescue?

It would be amazing to have a tab in Deliver that would provide authoring and burning to DVD / blu-ray / BDXL.
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostThu Apr 24, 2025 7:52 pm

Disk burning is easy. ImgBurn.

Disk Authoring is the problem. (Unless your Elon.)

Last I looked, the least expensive UHD Authoring tool with 'professional' features was over $3,000. :o
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostThu Apr 24, 2025 8:18 pm

You could look at TMPGenc Authoring, I think it is up to V7 now. I did not find as easy to use as DVDArchitect which I use but is not available anymore.
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostThu Apr 24, 2025 10:04 pm

If a client asks us for a disc, we look at them funny and ask, "is this 2010, or is it 2025?"

Roxio Toast will do it on Mac pretty affordably:

https://www.roxio.com/en/products/toast/
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostFri Apr 25, 2025 10:49 pm

Thanks for the TMPGenc suggestion. I used that program back in probably the late one thousands.
Unfortunately it's only 1080. I'm looking for a BDXL solution.

For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would choose streaming over 4k discs. "Here's a movie I shot on a $20,000 camera with a $25,000 lens. Enjoy the compression artifacting!"
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostMon Apr 28, 2025 6:26 am

GalinMcMahon wrote:I'm looking for a BDXL solution.

For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would choose streaming over 4k discs. "Here's a movie I shot on a $20,000 camera with a $25,000 lens. Enjoy the compression artifacting!"


Haha! I know! It's crazy.

For years, I requested the option to make fully customised DVDs and Blu-ray Discs in DaVinci Resolve (while my mother was alive, because she wanted videos of her grandchildren on DVD). She was in her 70s and didn't own or want a computer. She just wanted physical DVD videos of her grandchildren, and DVD / Blu-ray video authoring software was always unreliable on all my computers except two laptops (the last died almost a decade ago). After seeing the reliability and quality of DaVinci Resolve, I knew that if Blackmagic Design added that feature to DR, it had the potential to be the best fully customisable DVD and Blu-ray authoring software on the market.

However, I was told that adding that feature would be too costly, and almost no one would use it because the popularity of DVDs and Blu-rays was dwindling (even before the pandemic). True, but many still love them, like my late mother and others who prefer to have a physical version of the film to watch instead of an inferior digital video file that lacks the video and sound quality of the original in theatres.

Granted, if the best features in Panasonic and Sony's best 4K Blu-ray players (minus their problems) were merged into a single player, that would be epic, too. But I digress.

I hope Blackmagic adds that feature. It would be epic. Especially if they can also save it to a subdirectory of the SSD/HDD for mass production (instead of merely directly burning to disc each time). Universities could use it to author and sell DVD or Blu-ray copies of stage productions or concerts they produce. Low-budget filmmakers and kids aspiring to make films could have fun making and selling or giving away their videos on fully customised DVD and Blu-ray discs. How cool is that? Maybe not for everyone, but many people of all ages might enjoy it. If my dad were alive and his life's experiences were recorded on video, he'd have them stored on DVD or Blu-ray.

Anywhoo.

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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostMon Apr 28, 2025 7:41 pm

Thank you for the good and helpful comment, Roger. I have worked on a lot of productions for copy and credit. There's nothing worse than payment being a YouTube link or at best a downloadable file that I'm just going to lose. If a project presented a polished blu-ray (or, much better, a UHD disk) then that would elevate that team to a whole new level.

I don't know if cost would be a huge factor to integrate a decades-old technology. Resolve is fairly leading edge with AI so clearly they're not too timid to go out on a limb. There are tons of virusware companies giving away authoring / burning software, some of which actually kinda sorta work. For Blackmagic to simply integrate that into Resolve or as a standalone like the proxy generator would really highlight their commitment to quality. Because, again, streaming is just not quality.

I also get that Resolve is an editing suite. But so is Premiere and, as mentioned, they used to include Encore which was great software that really encouraged people like me to pirate it LOL (I don't do that anymore.)
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostMon Apr 28, 2025 7:44 pm

GalinMcMahon wrote:For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would choose streaming over 4k discs.
Same reason they chose MP3 over SuperAudioCD.

Convenience.

(Damn peasants. Whatcha gonna do? :? )
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PostMon Apr 28, 2025 8:27 pm

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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostSun May 04, 2025 3:28 am

SkierEvans wrote:Don't know if this works

https://www.dvdfab.cn/uhd-creator.htm


Good evening, SkierEvans,

I used this software when it first came out decades ago, and it's epic but extremely controversial because it's made in China, it bypasses security features, and allows people to make backup copies of their DVDs and Blu ray discs.

Sounds great, right?

Well, no one really knows if the software is a tojan that steals other sensitive information on the users' computer and sends it to China. From what I've read, many people won't even risk using pirated and hacked copies of it. It's a great product, but it's too risky.

When DVDFab added a DVD creator, I tried it on my dying old laptop (after clearing it of most of its sensitive data). It looked better than most. It's more stable than Corel VideoStudio, but it has limitations (like Corel VideoStudio, it's not fully customisable). However, I don't trust it, which is a problem. (Yes, I know the laptop I'm using was also made in China and potentially has similar issues!)

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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostSun May 04, 2025 12:44 pm

Yes I agree we should be concerned about software that may track what we do etc. But you do realize that if you use an iPhone Apple knows EVERYTHING you do. If you do not use iCloud or find my phone etc you may as well buy a cheap phone. Same for Android if you need to use any of the useful features. My editing PC is much more secure as it has no personal information of use on it only editing software and is only on when I use it. I have Android phone but most of time data is off .
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostSun May 04, 2025 6:20 pm

+1

I had a topic on this same thing in this forum a few years ago and the situation in my market still requires physical media.

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=115819

I got a mac mini with Encore still working somehow, but yes, having the ability to author a basic DVD / BluRay would be a blessing, and allow me to send this grandpa to a museum. I don't have a clear view of how complicated could be to repurpose some of the components in the fusion, edit and delivery package to allow a simple auhoring page, but I suppose it's still no sense in a world that seems to be running away from physical media. Even BR Players production has been planned for decease...

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PostWed May 07, 2025 9:38 pm

SkierEvans wrote:Don't know if this works

https://www.dvdfab.cn/uhd-creator.htm


Thanks for the suggestion. I'm cautious about using that type of software. From experience, software that uses that "style" of website is always virusware. They all have that recognizable design that just outs them.

So we have several virusware options and a $3,000 one that likely works but, again, $3,000. I currently use Nero but it's on a Windows 98 design and only burns as high as blu-ray, no UHD / BDXL. There is a push by many to save physical media so if this were available in a trustworthy software like Resolve Studio (paid of course) then I think it would expand the paid customer base.
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PostThu May 08, 2025 2:58 am

You would think Pegasys Tempgenc Authoring Works would be a likely candidate to add 4k Bluray capability.

So why don't they? No market? Hollywood license restrictions? Anyone know? (AI doesn't. It just makes some nonsense up :) )

Seems highly unlikely BM would add this to Resolve. But hey, doesn't hurt to ask.
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PostThu May 08, 2025 5:15 am

SkierEvans wrote:Yes I agree we should be concerned about software that may track what we do etc. But you do realize that if you use an iPhone Apple knows EVERYTHING you do. If you do not use iCloud or find my phone etc you may as well buy a cheap phone. Same for Android if you need to use any of the useful features. My editing PC is much more secure as it has no personal information of use on it only editing software and is only on when I use it. I have Android phone but most of time data is off .


Good evening, SkierEvans,

I agree with you, but that's why they have dumb phones. It limits hacking without apps! ... Any apps. Not even a calculator. Haha. ;) I also have an Android, but no data. I don't need it for much.

You have a dedicated editing PC? That's useful!
Aside from word processing, most of my work requires my editing computer to run smoothly. A dedicated editing computer would be useful. Hmm. (Adding your idea to my wish list.)

Thank you for your response! I hope you have an epic week!

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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostThu May 08, 2025 11:24 am

I have several PC's for different tasks. Most have been my editor in their past so when I upgraded they were used for other things rather than junked. So I have the oldest that I just use to do finance stuff like bank access, paybills etc. It has no email on it and all the virus checks etc. The next oldest is the one I use for Web browsing and email that I am using to write this on. It too has all the virus checks etc. Then the PC editor only has editing apps on it and just Defender. Before Defender got good I had no virus checks on the editing PC's. Likewise the Studio Max only has Resolve, Affinity Photo and Topaz all the Mac features turned off ie no iCloud, Siri etc. So just a compute Mac.
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Re: DVD authoring / burning

PostThu May 08, 2025 7:00 pm

tsMuxeR and tsMuxer GUI can create an ISO or Blu-ray for you. But only for Blu-rays as far as I know.
It can mux multiple audio- and subtitle streams with the file.

It's Open Source.

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