adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline version

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adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline version

PostSun Jun 29, 2025 9:50 pm

if I put an 8k clip in an FHD timeline, I expect to be able to zoom into the clip in a major way.
A very smart way to do these operations (as I do in other programs) is to use the adjustment layer, I place it over the clip, establish zoom and re-position, and then I can nimbly duplicate that adjustment layer, perhaps making it different colors so that it's quick and easy to create virtual cameras from a high-res shot.
Working on Resolve I find that if I zoom in on the clip directly all is well, but if I use the adjustment layer, it works on the FHD version of the clip (the one released in the timeline) and I haven't figured out if there is any way to have it apply the effect (direct or using OFX Transform) to the original source of the clip.

to date I can find as an alternative to duplicate clips, change the zoom and position and turn the timeline into a multi-camera clip, but that is not what I want to do, it all becomes more cumbersome and articulate.

What I am asking for is to be able to enable in the adjustment layer options, that if I enable access to the source, it can zoom in on clips in 8k
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Re: adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline ver

PostMon Jun 30, 2025 1:53 am

That kind of defeat the purpose of an adjustment layer: it sits on top after a lot of things happened: scanning, fusion, color, compositing of multiple layers...

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Re: adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline ver

PostMon Jun 30, 2025 7:42 am

carlomacchiavello wrote:What I am asking for is to be able to enable in the adjustment layer options, that if I enable access to the source, it can zoom in on clips in 8k

It would then have to process everything (fusion, coloretc) before hitting adjustment layer at that high res, even if you only use a small piece of the image in the end. Or it would have to start doing region of interest based requests which for timeline rendering is probably overly complicated and slow, it is more of a compositing territory.
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Re: adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline ver

PostMon Jun 30, 2025 8:56 am

I understood that, I propose to add an option on it to access to the original clip size, not the common use which go to be slower.

No, fusion is unusable for this thing, I will not have top coloured sign of what scale I did.

Mine is the flexible version of option of cut page to zoom in (which is a copy of clip zoomed).


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Re: adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline ver

PostMon Jun 30, 2025 11:11 am

If you need full resolution in Adjustment Clips you could work in a 8k timeline and set the output resolution to HD.

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Re: adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline ver

PostMon Jun 30, 2025 12:38 pm

Christoph Schmid wrote:If you need full resolution in Adjustment Clips you could work in a 8k timeline and set the output resolution to HD.

in fhd timeline with 5x8k tracks i can go in playback without problems, in 8k timeline with 5 tracks x 8k my computer not allow to do playback at more than 4-5fps.
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Re: adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline ver

PostMon Jun 30, 2025 2:59 pm

I think the best solution to your problem, Carlo, is Effect Presets.

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Re: adjustment layer should work on O clip, not timeline ver

PostMon Jun 30, 2025 3:13 pm

Jim Simon wrote:I think the best solution to your problem, Carlo, is Effect Presets.

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sorry Jim, i not understand the suggest.
i need to have access to full resolution of clip when i apply an OFX of transform and not to a timeline resolution of clip.

preset is useful for other kind of work, but here not speed up my work, i not want to modify directly the clip, i would like to put over an adjustment layer instead of cut every single piece of clip to zoom in and out.

I'll give an example to make the usefulness clearer.
imagine you have a theatrical performance whose delivery is in fullHD and you shoot in 8k.

By adding three to four adjustment clips with different colors on them, with different placements and zooms, I can :
- “edit” totals from a series of close-up shots, without having to cut the clip each time to zoom in on just one part
- instead of doing copy and paste of parameters, I just drag with alt/option pressed and bring the zoom I need to where I want it.
- If I want it to last longer or shorter, I just move it shorten and lengthen the adjustment clip.

I've been doing this for years on premiere and I thought I could do it nimbly on resolve as well, but I've found that it's just not the case.
compared to cutting, changing parameters there's a lot less operations, a lot of time saved, and on shows of 50-80 minutes they become days of work saved.

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