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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Feb 15, 2021 6:38 am

VST3 has been the standard since 2008.... Blackmagic is 13 years behind
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed Mar 03, 2021 3:30 pm

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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSat Mar 06, 2021 11:04 am

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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed Mar 10, 2021 7:25 am

As an audio guy: +1!!
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed Mar 10, 2021 11:23 am

Ugo Laurenti wrote:As an audio guy: +1!!

As a non-audio guy... also +1! :D
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSun Mar 14, 2021 9:53 pm

VioletWolf wrote:VST3 has been the standard since 2008.... Blackmagic is 13 years behind

Would be great if Blackmagic has time to implement VST3. It is the one thing that is holding us back from working with audio in Resolve. Since we record with Dual Mid Side Array we just cannot process them in Resolve currently.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri Mar 19, 2021 7:19 am

+1 from me! This must be why my compressor plugin wasn't working the other day.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Mar 22, 2021 7:30 am

It might be even legally questionable to distribute new VST2.x plug-ins and hosts, at least by using Steinberg's SDK:
https://github.com/obiwanjacobi/vst.net/issues/11
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Mar 22, 2021 7:28 pm

OlliVan wrote:It might be even legally questionable to distribute new VST2.x plug-ins and hosts, at least by using Steinberg's SDK:
https://github.com/obiwanjacobi/vst.net/issues/11


YES. This comment from the above link: "From October 2018 onward we are closing down the second version of VST for good. While the VST 2 SDK has been unavailable, and so have maintenance and technical support, the subset within the VST 3 SDK will also be omitted"

Readmore at : https://www.steinberg.net/

"If you want to publish your vst it is now impossible for you to do so in vst2. Migrate to vst3 except of course for vst homebrew for personal use."
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostThu Mar 25, 2021 9:43 pm

+1

Most of my plug-ins I used in Adobe Audition don't load in Resolve. Just like with ASIO, BMD needs to spend more time focusing on interoperability with industry standards. Both ASIO and VST3 have been around for a LONG time and used by pretty much everybody else.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSat Mar 27, 2021 11:39 am

+1 for VST3 and sidechaining to 3rd party plug-ins
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Apr 05, 2021 6:05 pm

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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Apr 05, 2021 6:06 pm

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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed Apr 07, 2021 3:01 pm

+1

I'm only recently getting deep into audio mixing, and was surprised to see that VST3 wasn't supported.

"OK, it must be a new thing that's just come out".

No...it isn't.

Why on earth is there not support for audio plugin architecture that is 13 years old?!

Resolve 17 introduced a whole new audio framework, did it not? Why was it not part of that?!

I'm honestly flummoxed.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm

It also seems that support for both VST2.x and AU is not exactly production ready. Almost none of the AUs I have will open the interface and even if it happens Resolve might just crash in the next moment.

VST2.x works slightly better but for example delay plugins will almost never work immediately once you add a new instance on track or bus. It seems to happen because Resolve only will getLatencySamples() function of the plugin if the plugin was already there when the project was loaded (or possibly the timeline). If you don't restart Resolve after adding a delay plugin the audio will be first out of sync and finally everything will just freeze for whatever reason. Eventually everything will usually work fine, until you get to rendering. With one VST plugin I had no audio in the final file and another plugin makes Resolve freeze occasionally after around 10%. Needless to say that these plugins are working fine with other DAWs.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed Apr 07, 2021 7:15 pm

OlliVan wrote:Almost none of the AUs I have will open the interface and even if it happens Resolve might just crash in the next moment.
Are the AU plugin UIs not displaying with an active transport or rather when instantiating the plugin initially?

Are you able to provide crash logs? May assist in determining if the plugin is crashing or the host.

VST2.x works slightly better but for example delay plugins will almost never work immediately once you add a new instance on track or bus.
Which delay plugins are you experiencing this behaviour with?

Not reproducing that behaviour with Slapper nor any of the other plugins installed on my system. It may be a plugin specific issue.

If you don't restart Resolve after adding a delay plugin the audio will be first out of sync and finally everything will just freeze for whatever reason.
Is the behaviour in both Fixed and Flexi Bus modes?

What is the ADC column in the Track Index indicating for the Track in Flexi Bus mode?

With one VST plugin I had no audio in the final file and another plugin makes Resolve freeze occasionally after around 10%
With which plugins are you experiencing this behaviour with?

Are these mono, stereo, or multichannel plugin instances?

Which version of Mac OS are you running?

A system spec and logs may be useful in finding the offending procedure:
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSun Apr 11, 2021 11:26 pm

+1 Would love to move a previous project from Adobe Audition, but half my plug-ins won't load.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostTue Apr 13, 2021 12:45 pm

Just adding a +1 to this.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon May 03, 2021 8:23 am

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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostTue May 04, 2021 9:21 am

Hi, the missing of the VST3 support isn't the only bad problem to work in Resolve as a composer and producer. Infact it's impossible work with music virtual instrument also VST2, because closing the project you lose the input midi channel settings you set in the project....

This is incredible. I never see a kind of problem like this with a DAW. You set your midi inputs for your virtuals (a lot of them for orchestra projects) and when you reopen the project you see that Resolve random lost the midi settings....And if you keep going to close and open the project you end up to lose all of your midi settings hard work....

Is't very incredible. For this reason it's totally impossible using Resolve as a real DAW.

However I absolute add a +1 to VST3 compatibility request
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostTue May 04, 2021 7:23 pm

It reminds me of Cubase 1990 but with higher track count. Not even kidding
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon May 10, 2021 9:32 pm

+1 for VST3

I just realized lack of VST3 support is why iZotope Nectar 3 won't work in Davinci Resolve.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed May 12, 2021 5:41 pm

khall187 wrote:+1 for VST3

I just realized lack of VST3 support is why iZotope Nectar 3 won't work in Davinci Resolve.


I use Nectar 3 all the time in Resolve. It is in a weird category though (uncategorized I think).

But yes, please bring in VST3.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed May 12, 2021 6:09 pm

Timothy Clark wrote:I use Nectar 3 all the time in Resolve. It is in a weird category though (uncategorized I think).
Preferences > System > Audio Plugins > Available Plugins.

Click the Category to expose a drop-down menu with a category listing.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostThu May 13, 2021 4:21 pm

pluggy wrote:Hi, the missing of the VST3 support isn't the only bad problem to work in Resolve as a composer and producer. Infact it's impossible work with music virtual instrument also VST2, because closing the project you lose the input midi channel settings you set in the project....

This is incredible. I never see a kind of problem like this with a DAW. You set your midi inputs for your virtuals (a lot of them for orchestra projects) and when you reopen the project you see that Resolve random lost the midi settings....And if you keep going to close and open the project you end up to lose all of your midi settings hard work....

Is't very incredible. For this reason it's totally impossible using Resolve as a real DAW.

However I absolute add a +1 to VST3 compatibility request

This is a low priority issue as Fairlight is not really a music production DAW, and is in fact fairly bad at it compared to even Pro Tools.

VST3 is needed because newer plug-ins are shipping as VST3/AAX/AU only. This means Resolve cannot use them at all.

And the lack of ASIO speaks for itself.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSat May 15, 2021 1:30 pm

Yes, I agree, We have a few plugins for processing we really need and they only exist in VST3, so right now it causing us much grief.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSat May 15, 2021 7:00 pm

The people commenting that MIDI isn't important in a film DAW have obviously never scored a film. Music to film on mid-sized and indie productions is almost 100% virtual instruments these days. Often dozens to hundreds of MIDI tracks if you're including Foley.

MIDI is very important in a film DAW.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostThu May 20, 2021 6:52 am

Add VST3 urgently, please, +100 - is essential for working efficiently in film audio post. Thank you
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri May 21, 2021 9:05 pm

VioletWolf wrote:The people commenting that MIDI isn't important in a film DAW have obviously never scored a film. Music to film on mid-sized and indie productions is almost 100% virtual instruments these days. Often dozens to hundreds of MIDI tracks if you're including Foley.

MIDI is very important in a film DAW.

Fairlight is an audio post DAW. Like Pyramix, which doesn't support MIDI. People scoring will not want to do it in Fairlight. It is not even close to being on par with Cubase or DP for that work. Even if it supported MIDI and VIs, no one would use it except you...

Why are you assuming what people do or do not know?

Fairlight is not designed for music production...
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri May 21, 2021 9:17 pm

Trensharo wrote:Why are you assuming what people do or do not know?


Or you? LOL.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri May 21, 2021 9:19 pm

Trensharo wrote:
Fairlight is not designed for music production...


Then why does it (try) to have all the tools to do so?

(I've had 35 years of professional multi-room studio ownership btw)
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri May 21, 2021 9:54 pm

VioletWolf wrote:
(I've had 35 years of professional multi-room studio ownership btw)

I'm not sure why I should care about this, but congratulations?

Then why does it (try) to have all the tools to do so?

It doesn't. It just has vestigial parts that were ported over with the rest of those pieces when they integrated it into Resolve.

You can produce music in Audacity if you're willing to put up with its deficiencies. That is not telling much.

Ask the developers what their future plans are. That is where you will get your answer.

However, IMVHO, they would be dumping developing time into this for no gain, as the feature set in Resolve Fairlight isn't even close to what a professional film composer expects in a DAW. We'll be on Resolve v25 and they still will not have caught up.
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Trensharo wrote:Why are you assuming what people do or do not know?


Or you? LOL.

Nonsensical response. What does this even mean? "LOL."

Anyone who composes or produces music in a DAW will agree that VST3 is far more important than Virtual Instruments in Fairlight, as it's missing so much beyond that which makes it unsuitable for music production unless you're recording end editing audio almost exclusively.

And no composers or producers want a DAW that requires a $500 GPU, anyways. Money is better spent elsewhere for these people.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostThu Jun 10, 2021 7:48 pm

+1, please add vst3! There are some essential tools I like to add.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri Jun 11, 2021 12:40 pm

so many votes, so why not, BM
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostWed Jun 30, 2021 7:02 pm

+1 We NEED VST3 if BM wants Fairlight to be a viable audio post option. I have VST3 plugins that are being used for studio films and tv series that I can't use without having to go to a separate DAW.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri Jul 02, 2021 6:48 pm

DietmarLin wrote:so many votes, so why not, BM


Bump. Some form of comment from BM would be very welcome.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Jul 05, 2021 6:13 pm

DietmarLin wrote:so many votes, so why not, BM

VioletWolf wrote:
DietmarLin wrote:so many votes, so why not, BM


Bump. Some form of comment from BM would be very welcome.


Secondary Bump on the previous Bump.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSat Jul 10, 2021 10:28 pm

+1
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSun Jul 11, 2021 12:32 pm

Right now I do our audio work in Nuendo, but I would probably switch over to Resolve if we had VST3. Just saying.. :)
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Jul 12, 2021 4:19 pm

+1
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostTue Jul 13, 2021 7:13 pm

deezid wrote:+1
Doing post-pro audio in Reaper because CPU utilization using old-school VST2 plugins is quite ridiculous in comparison.


+1 It is really frustrating and time-consuming to have to render out full dialogue stems to work on in another DAW just so we can use the high-end plugins. We need VST3 now! Read the room Blackmagic.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri Aug 13, 2021 6:13 pm

Can the Resolve/Fairlight team explain why VST3 has not been implemented and if and when we might see it?

For an awesome program built with all the hindsight of editors and DAWs and is crushing it on so many fronts that when we get into Fairlight it lacks in so many critical areas, VST 3 support being one of them, I am shocked that an 11 year old platform was not integrated from day 1 of Fairlight being part of Resolve. The short comings of Fairlight legacy coding that never kept up with the times is making audio work excruciating painful compared to Protools and other DAWs. I feel R17 is the first version where you can actually do some audio work they have added some good ideas but its not a complete fluid workflow so it still takes at least twice as long to accomplish a certain standard of work. Not having full access to so many great audio tools is a time suck!
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

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+1 for VST3
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostThu Oct 07, 2021 2:01 pm

+one billion for VST3

C'MON BLACKMAGIC.

VST3 has been out for 13 years! Can anyone from the company just say "Hi. We hear you." at least?
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostSun Oct 17, 2021 1:48 pm

+1 for VST3
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri Oct 22, 2021 11:19 am

It is not a dream.

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"Steinberg VST3 support with access to even more audio effects."
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri Oct 22, 2021 8:19 pm

Fairlight on Linux would be borderline usable if they added support for VST2/3.
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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostFri Oct 22, 2021 10:55 pm

Wow, fantastic that they released this. Cannot wait to try! That was my biggest reason for using Nuendo for sound mixing.

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Re: VST3 for Resolve

PostMon Oct 25, 2021 4:35 pm

philtimm wrote:Why on earth is there not support for audio plugin architecture that is 13 years old?!


Many DAWs which have supported both VST2 and VST3 for a long time do not play nicely with many of the VST3 versions of plugins that are out there - it has often been the case (so far) that VST2 versions are more stable than VST3 versions on many hosts.

As a result, some of us are quick to give preference to the VST2 versions over the VST3 versions when possible.

With the VST2 SDK being deprecated, I do hope this starts to change.
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