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Smart bins on Cut page

PostThu Feb 06, 2020 8:36 pm

Not having the Smart Bins available on the Cut Page makes no sense to me and makes the Cut Page almost useless to me. I'd like to see Blackmagic add the ability to access my Smart Bins from the Cut Page.

In searching this forum I've seen many posts also looking for Smart Bin accessibility on the Cut page - the replies to those posts are rarely positive and mostly trolling and ridicule, I don't understand why the question is causing backlash from other forum users. (I do realize this statement will almost certainly generate more of that cruft, but for Blackmagic, I hope you take my suggestion seriously.)
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostThu Feb 06, 2020 8:44 pm

Sure, but in the meanwhile....

You can make a smart bin into a floating window and it will stay open and accessible in the cut page.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostThu Feb 06, 2020 9:58 pm

kinvermark wrote:Sure, but in the meanwhile....

You can make a smart bin into a floating window and it will stay open and accessible in the cut page.

That's brilliant! Works great especially as I have multiple monitors.

Thank you so much for the suggestion!
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostThu Feb 06, 2020 10:57 pm

I would find this useful as well. Not having access to my organized media is a big part of why I can't even try the Cut page for my projects.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostMon Mar 30, 2020 6:54 am

kinvermark wrote:Sure, but in the meanwhile....

You can make a smart bin into a floating window and it will stay open and accessible in the cut page.


That does work, but unfortunately the source tape feature ignores smart bins. It would be great if that it would be populated just from the smart bin that is selected.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostMon Apr 06, 2020 9:49 pm

I found a pretty easy workaround. In my case, smart bins are dated, so I can see the time progression of clips. I just created identically named bins under master. Then easily dragged the content of each smart bin to its matching master bin. Now all smart bin content is accessible from the cut page.

Its not perfect, but now I'm using the cut page as I had hoped.
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Cut Page Smart Bins

PostSat Dec 12, 2020 8:55 pm

Until I can access my Smart Bins directly on the Cut page, it will be of no use to me.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostMon Dec 14, 2020 11:25 pm

+1 And you know why lol
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostTue Dec 15, 2020 5:53 am

Jim Simon wrote:Until I can access my Smart Bins directly on the Cut page, it will be of no use to me.


It's not a perfect solution, but there's one way. You can do this by clicking in the Media tap click at'Open as new window'.
I hope this becomes possible within a full UI. BIN accessibility of CUT PAGE and consistency with EDIT PAGE are insufficient.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostFri Feb 05, 2021 9:27 pm

I would like to see this addition as well, also power bins.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostThu Feb 11, 2021 6:44 pm

WHUT!? I was just searching this forum for how to access my Smart Bins from within the Cut Page - it didn't even occur to me that wouldn't be possible (without having to create floaty windows or duplicating bins and copying the smart bins contents across). :shock: :o

I'm new to Resolve and I do really love it, but I'm not a fan of software that forces you to having to know about its underlaying architecture. At the end of the day if I've organised my media in Smart Bins then they should just be 'there' available for me. I couldn't care less if the media I want is in a smart bin, normal bin, or tutankhamon's tomb...just be there.

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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostThu Mar 11, 2021 9:37 pm

Version 17 has been officially released, and man what an incredible update!

BMD can't do everything we want in the "next version", so I wanted to bump this idea, which didn't make the cut for 17.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostFri Mar 26, 2021 10:55 pm

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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostWed Mar 31, 2021 4:26 pm

+1
This would be useful to have
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostThu Apr 08, 2021 2:01 pm

One more vote for using smart bins in cut page. I work on long-form docs for TV, and use smart bins to organise the footage in multiple ways. Being able to use the speed editor to scroll through a smart bin as a source tape would be a fantastic time-saver.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostFri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 pm

jonathanljs wrote:use the speed editor to scroll through a smart bin
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostSat May 08, 2021 8:01 am

+1
Can't believe it's still not there... it can't be rocket-science to implement smart bins on the cut page and if the source tape feature also works with it even better!
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostFri May 21, 2021 4:47 pm

+1

Need this!
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostWed Jun 16, 2021 11:39 am

yep. just left another post on a thread here because Im used to FCPX "favorites". been in resolve for a bit now and mostly small experimental projects to transition over and learn. but recently hit a BIG project with a tons of dailies that need the fat trimmed off. after reading about smart bins and creating "subclips" I was happy. until I realized they don't show up in the cut page. im floored after reading this thread. this should be like the EASIEST thing for BM to implement. its mission critical and workarounds to get them to show is ludicrous. im pretty shocked actually.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostWed Jun 23, 2021 3:12 am

kinvermark wrote:Sure, but in the meanwhile....

You can make a smart bin into a floating window and it will stay open and accessible in the cut page.


Thanks for this suggestion. Wouldn't have thought of that.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostFri Jul 30, 2021 11:52 am

+1
Let's have a return to the glory days, when press releases for new versions included text like "...with over 300 new features and improvements that professional editors and colorists have asked for."
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostThu Dec 23, 2021 8:37 am

Yes, please let us access Smart Bins directly on the Cut Page and scroll through it as a source tape.

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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostFri Feb 04, 2022 1:19 pm

wnat to push this topic a little. Its been 2 years already since the first post about this in the forum. it really needs to be implemented! Its useless. why would you be able to sort by scene and shot and not seeing the smart bins.
Also i am really missing to be able to sort by keywords!
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostMon Feb 07, 2022 1:34 pm

+1

Like others have said, it’s useless without smart bins at the moment. I have no idea why they aren’t available.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostTue Feb 08, 2022 10:58 pm

Better start fusioning Edit Page with Cut Page, the only key factor is timeline, so let us alternate between one timeline mode and the other.

I never never use Cut Page after so many attemps, as i feel too limited there , and fundamental elements like keyframing, speed, clip markers that may arise during cutting process forces us to go to Edit Page all the time and stay away from Cut Page. At that point also Speed Editor gets a waste of keys assigned to Cam1-9, but still missing fundamental elements of edition (like Go to In marker).

Cut Page + Speed Edit, in my humble experience and opinion are "alpha version" elements in terms of UX, to stay away from them if you take edition seriously.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostSat Feb 19, 2022 4:47 pm

+1.
I do not really see what is the use for smart bins if you cannot use them for choosing material for cut.
I do not see logic why smart bins and power bins are removed from cut page
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostMon Jul 11, 2022 10:29 pm

kinvermark wrote:Sure, but in the meanwhile....

You can make a smart bin into a floating window and it will stay open and accessible in the cut page.


How to do this? I only have one monitor (49inch), so Davinci doesn't allow dual screen. Do I need this to make a floating window? Just can't find how to do this.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostWed Jul 13, 2022 7:03 pm

Right click on any media bin and choose "open in new window." Click on whatever bins (smart or otherwise) you want to look at.

Then arrange the main page ("cut" page in your case) so it takes up a portion of your single monitor and the floating window takes up some part of the rest.

I typically use this setup for metadata entry when using the media page, so set that to take up half the monitor, with the floating window taking up the other half. The metadata entry panel then is nicely placed in the middle of the screen where it is easy to work with.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostThu Jul 14, 2022 8:02 am

kinvermark wrote:Right click on any media bin and choose "open in new window." Click on whatever bins (smart or otherwise) you want to look at.

Then arrange the main page ("cut" page in your case) so it takes up a portion of your single monitor and the floating window takes up some part of the rest.

I typically use this setup for metadata entry when using the media page, so set that to take up half the monitor, with the floating window taking up the other half. The metadata entry panel then is nicely placed in the middle of the screen where it is easy to work with.


Ah I was a little confused by the earlier instructions. On the Smart bins I don't have anything when right clicking. But I discovered that when I right click the Master bin, I do have the "open in new window" option and in that Window I can open the Smart Bins again :-)

Been searching for an hour on how to open the smart bin in a new window, but should have opened any other bin in a new window.

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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostMon Jul 25, 2022 4:44 pm

Version 18 was just released. Not all Feature Requests can be done at once, and this one didn't make the cut.

So here it is for continued voting.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostTue Aug 02, 2022 10:17 pm

+1

One more vote for this feature. As many others have said, if you use Smartbins the Cut Page along with the Speed Editor aren't very useful. This would save a ton of time sorting through footage and organizing it into my timelines.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostMon Oct 31, 2022 3:36 pm

+1 for adding smart bins to the Cut Page.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostMon Nov 14, 2022 12:53 pm

+1

Another vote for this feature. This really needs to be added
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostMon Jan 16, 2023 11:41 pm

+1 For me the most important thing is the possibility of use Smart Bins, Keywords and Tape mode at the same time. That way I can organize my footage in many different ways and use a easy way to edit B-roll footage.
I don't care if I can access to Smart Bins front Cut page or include Tape mode in the Edit page (maybe this option is better).

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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostSun Mar 12, 2023 12:29 pm

+1 absolutely.

It's such a bummer there's no way to use the keywords/Smart bins in the Cut Page.
Especially when you want to work with the 'SOURCE' button and scroll with your Speed Editor through a selection of keyword'ed Clips.
Working on a long documentary and it would be such a relief having that kind of fast access, as I organized everything with Keywords. :|
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Smart Bins in Cut Page

PostSun Apr 23, 2023 5:01 am

Hi, my majority consists of feature films where before editing starts we log metadata to all the clips, including scene no, take no, shot no. ..etc. We then create smart Bins for each scene number. The initial process in editing starts with viewing all the clips shot for a particular scene and marking it for use. The cut page is very handy in that where we could see all the clips in a traditional tape manner. But the problem is there is no way we could use smart Bins in the cut page. Our main folder structure will be based on the camera and card numbers. But this folder structure is very much unusable in cut page. So I kindly request the blackmagic design team to consider this feature for davinci resolve in upcoming updates.
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostMon Apr 24, 2023 12:23 am

+ 1, really a shame this hasn't yet made it to the cut page. Can't be that tall an order.
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Re: Smart Bins in Cut Page

PostMon Apr 24, 2023 3:48 pm

+1 Smartbins and keywords in the cut Page It would be very usefull. We can use keywords and tape mode to "make" diferentes tapes for B-roll footage, interviews or scenes while whe have a traditional folder structure based in cameras or date or whatever...

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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

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+1 that would be great.

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Re: Smart Bins in Cut Page

PostMon Apr 24, 2023 3:49 pm

+1. No reason for them not to be in there.
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Re: Smart Bins in Cut Page

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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

PostSun Apr 30, 2023 12:03 am

Has this been resolved? Why can't we see the smart bin in the cut page? Kind of defeats the purpose if we can't???
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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

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Re: Cut Page Smart Bins

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+120809824 times infinity.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostFri Jun 09, 2023 1:21 pm

+1

You can analyze clips for people in cut page, but without smart bins it's not that senseful.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostFri Jul 21, 2023 11:35 am

Make this happen, I would love to use the speededitor with automated Smartbins. Working on a project where all the files have multiple Keywords, so makeing regular bins for all files is impractical.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostFri Jul 21, 2023 11:42 am

kinvermark wrote:Sure, but in the meanwhile....

You can make a smart bin into a floating window and it will stay open and accessible in the cut page.

How do you do that I konw how to get floating scopes in the color page, but that button is not avaiable in the mediapool panel.
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostSat Jul 22, 2023 7:52 pm

Noah Bühler wrote:
kinvermark wrote:Sure, but in the meanwhile....

You can make a smart bin into a floating window and it will stay open and accessible in the cut page.

How do you do that I konw how to get floating scopes in the color page, but that button is not avaiable in the mediapool panel.


open the smart bin in another page then switch to the cut page
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Re: Smart bins on Cut page

PostTue Aug 01, 2023 1:37 pm

flipnap wrote:yep. just left another post on a thread here because Im used to FCPX "favorites". been in resolve for a bit now and mostly small experimental projects to transition over and learn. but recently hit a BIG project with a tons of dailies that need the fat trimmed off. after reading about smart bins and creating "subclips" I was happy. until I realized they don't show up in the cut page. im floored after reading this thread. this should be like the EASIEST thing for BM to implement. its mission critical and workarounds to get them to show is ludicrous. im pretty shocked actually.



+1 Please BMD, make smart bins available in the cut page. Also coming from FCPX and find this extremely frustrating
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