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Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:37 pm
I see some smaller and bigger issues with the Track Destinations Selection on Edit Page
Hopefully this post is not based on a grave misunderstanding of the workflow in Resolve. So please correct me if I am wrong
. Here we go:
A) Button to Deactivate all Video/Audio Track Destinations (= Video/Audio Only) in the Edit Page
Track Destinations set by mouse are working great. But the Video only or Audio only Buttons on the Timeline to Click on would be helpful on the Edit Page too, not only the Cut Page.
And make it a Keyboard Command too! so....
B) Shortcut to Deactivate all Video/Audio Track Destinations (= Video/Audio Only) for both Edit and Cut Page
To make this function even better make it work in conjunction with the mouse! What I mean is that it would be immensely helpful to hover with a Clip in the Timeline (by holding the Mouse) and use the shortcut to toggle Video/Audio on and off while doing so. It would be nice if the Shortcut could temporarily overrule the „Audio Track Destinations“ Settings and just import this one Clip without Audio/Video. All of this while actively hovering with the Clip in the Timeline, just like „snapping“ can be temporarily activated/deactivated with Shortcuts in the process.
C) Track Destinations Selection Shortcuts are broken when dealing with Multi-Track-Clips
Unless you are dealing with only 1 Video and 1 Audio track, keyboard shortcut are not possible. Let's say I do want Audio Track Destination 3 and 4 to be deactivated by using the keyboard? Not Possible. Functions like „Audio Destination A1 - A8“ simply do not work anymore when they are dealing with more than one Track.
Solution: Finding a system where Track Destination on/off toggling and Rerouting is possible with a keyboard. Or at least fix it so the current command „Audio Destination A1 – A8“ could toggle on/off just like they do when they deal with only one layer.
D) Using the „Move Track Destinations Up or Down“ Command destroys all the user input
When dealing with Multi tracks you often have to set your own Track Destination Routing. Like I said, the given Commands will not work in Resolve when dealing with Multipack Clips, except for one command. „Move Track Destination Up & Down“ are the only functions still working. But they may erase all the work you have done with your manual Track Destinations Settings.
Say you have 4 Tracks.
A1 goes to Track 3
A2 goes to Track 1
A3 goes to Track 2
A4 is toggled off and will go nowhere
If you press now „Move Audio Track Destination Down“, Resolve will erase all the settings above back to default and move A1 to Track 2, A2 to Track 3, A3 to Track 4 and A4 to Track 5.
I find this not very helpful. I think the command should keep the user modifications and move those up/down instead.
But now comes something even worse
E) Resolve has a semi broken Track Destinations memory
Once again working with only one Audio track per Clip everything is perfect. Resolve will keep in mind if and where your Track Destinations are placed. So if you want your Single-Track-Clip (A1) to go into Track 3 then Resolve will do this indefinitely until you tell Resolve differently. But beware if you deal with a lot of different Multi-Track-Clips. Then Resolve might restart from default with its Destinations all the time.
What does that mean? Well try the following. First create a Timeline with 8 Tracks.
Second: Get yourself two Clips. One Clip with only one Track and another with 8 Audio tracks. (if you do not have a Clip with 8 Tracks you can simply add more tracks by manipulating the Clip Attributes and duplicate existing ones until you got 8) Now lets start with the Clip containing 8 Tracks. Reroute the Track Destinations in the Timeline randomly and deactivate some. But make sure that Destination A1 goes into something different from Track 1! Drop this Clip into the Timeline. After that let us load the Clip with only 1 Track into the Viewer. You will see that Resolve will not remember any Destinations or On/Off toggles. It will reset to the default Position of A1 in Track 1. And if you load the Clip with 8 Track back into the viewer you will see that those Destinations are lost too. But there is another strange Detail. There is one exception in what I said. Resolve will remember to keep certain Destinations on/off if they are still in their original Track Destination Positions. So if you have the lucky scenario that you want A1 to be inactive and you kept it at that time in Track 1 then Resolve will remember to keep the setting. But anything else, like deactivating A5 in Track 5 will be erased if the next Clip does not have that many Tracks.
F) Visual clues are missing when a Clip has more Tracks than the Timeline.
This is its own little problem. Let's say I am working in a timeline with only 4 Audio Tracks and I want to keep it that way. But I am importing now a Clip that has 16 Tracks. Then I have only control over the first 4 Tracks Designations since the other 12 are invisible. But what if my goal is to use only A5 to A8 and fit them into the existing Track 1 to 4 of the Timeline? Right now there is nothing I can do about it. Resolve will give no visual clue to what will happen. It just creates new content into the freshly generated Track 5 to 16. After that it is up to the user to sort out what he really needs and delete unwanted timelines. Avid Media Composer is smarter in that regard because it will give the User visual indicators and options to be manipulated before the Clip is inserted. (And of course it will remember all those settings for all Clip into the future)
Maybe other feel the same about "Track Destination Selection"?
Thank you for your time!
Hopefully this post is not based on a grave misunderstanding of the workflow in Resolve. So please correct me if I am wrong
. Here we go:A) Button to Deactivate all Video/Audio Track Destinations (= Video/Audio Only) in the Edit Page
Track Destinations set by mouse are working great. But the Video only or Audio only Buttons on the Timeline to Click on would be helpful on the Edit Page too, not only the Cut Page.
And make it a Keyboard Command too! so....
B) Shortcut to Deactivate all Video/Audio Track Destinations (= Video/Audio Only) for both Edit and Cut Page
To make this function even better make it work in conjunction with the mouse! What I mean is that it would be immensely helpful to hover with a Clip in the Timeline (by holding the Mouse) and use the shortcut to toggle Video/Audio on and off while doing so. It would be nice if the Shortcut could temporarily overrule the „Audio Track Destinations“ Settings and just import this one Clip without Audio/Video. All of this while actively hovering with the Clip in the Timeline, just like „snapping“ can be temporarily activated/deactivated with Shortcuts in the process.
C) Track Destinations Selection Shortcuts are broken when dealing with Multi-Track-Clips
Unless you are dealing with only 1 Video and 1 Audio track, keyboard shortcut are not possible. Let's say I do want Audio Track Destination 3 and 4 to be deactivated by using the keyboard? Not Possible. Functions like „Audio Destination A1 - A8“ simply do not work anymore when they are dealing with more than one Track.
Solution: Finding a system where Track Destination on/off toggling and Rerouting is possible with a keyboard. Or at least fix it so the current command „Audio Destination A1 – A8“ could toggle on/off just like they do when they deal with only one layer.
D) Using the „Move Track Destinations Up or Down“ Command destroys all the user input
When dealing with Multi tracks you often have to set your own Track Destination Routing. Like I said, the given Commands will not work in Resolve when dealing with Multipack Clips, except for one command. „Move Track Destination Up & Down“ are the only functions still working. But they may erase all the work you have done with your manual Track Destinations Settings.
Say you have 4 Tracks.
A1 goes to Track 3
A2 goes to Track 1
A3 goes to Track 2
A4 is toggled off and will go nowhere
If you press now „Move Audio Track Destination Down“, Resolve will erase all the settings above back to default and move A1 to Track 2, A2 to Track 3, A3 to Track 4 and A4 to Track 5.
I find this not very helpful. I think the command should keep the user modifications and move those up/down instead.
But now comes something even worse
E) Resolve has a semi broken Track Destinations memory
Once again working with only one Audio track per Clip everything is perfect. Resolve will keep in mind if and where your Track Destinations are placed. So if you want your Single-Track-Clip (A1) to go into Track 3 then Resolve will do this indefinitely until you tell Resolve differently. But beware if you deal with a lot of different Multi-Track-Clips. Then Resolve might restart from default with its Destinations all the time.
What does that mean? Well try the following. First create a Timeline with 8 Tracks.
Second: Get yourself two Clips. One Clip with only one Track and another with 8 Audio tracks. (if you do not have a Clip with 8 Tracks you can simply add more tracks by manipulating the Clip Attributes and duplicate existing ones until you got 8) Now lets start with the Clip containing 8 Tracks. Reroute the Track Destinations in the Timeline randomly and deactivate some. But make sure that Destination A1 goes into something different from Track 1! Drop this Clip into the Timeline. After that let us load the Clip with only 1 Track into the Viewer. You will see that Resolve will not remember any Destinations or On/Off toggles. It will reset to the default Position of A1 in Track 1. And if you load the Clip with 8 Track back into the viewer you will see that those Destinations are lost too. But there is another strange Detail. There is one exception in what I said. Resolve will remember to keep certain Destinations on/off if they are still in their original Track Destination Positions. So if you have the lucky scenario that you want A1 to be inactive and you kept it at that time in Track 1 then Resolve will remember to keep the setting. But anything else, like deactivating A5 in Track 5 will be erased if the next Clip does not have that many Tracks.
F) Visual clues are missing when a Clip has more Tracks than the Timeline.
This is its own little problem. Let's say I am working in a timeline with only 4 Audio Tracks and I want to keep it that way. But I am importing now a Clip that has 16 Tracks. Then I have only control over the first 4 Tracks Designations since the other 12 are invisible. But what if my goal is to use only A5 to A8 and fit them into the existing Track 1 to 4 of the Timeline? Right now there is nothing I can do about it. Resolve will give no visual clue to what will happen. It just creates new content into the freshly generated Track 5 to 16. After that it is up to the user to sort out what he really needs and delete unwanted timelines. Avid Media Composer is smarter in that regard because it will give the User visual indicators and options to be manipulated before the Clip is inserted. (And of course it will remember all those settings for all Clip into the future)
Maybe other feel the same about "Track Destination Selection"?
Thank you for your time!
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