Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

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Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostSun Jan 16, 2022 11:48 pm

Blackmagic Design, serious respect for the progress for DaVinci Resolve on Apple Silicon in the new MacBooks. Really am pleased with the performance of DR with my new MacBook Pro M1 Max.

While editing, I did run ASITOP from a terminal and see that while the CPU and GPU cores are in use, that the ANE cores are not.

I'm not sure how the ANE might supplement the DaVinci Neural Engine, but the 10 teraflops performance should come in handy if able to be utilized.
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostWed Mar 09, 2022 5:05 pm

I am neither an expert on Resolve's use of Neural processing, nor the Apple Neural Engine, but I would venture a guess that color grading and Fusion effects would be the first benefactors of any implementation of the technology.
Both of these activities would benefit from the massively parallel processing (yeah, I know 16 cores is hardly massive, however, 3.6 Billion Hz will take care of that, toot sweet. :) )
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostThu Mar 10, 2022 6:29 pm

Not a huge fan of platform-specific features.
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostFri Mar 11, 2022 9:54 am

Jim Simon wrote:Not a huge fan of platform-specific features.
Exactly, I feel and see all last optimization are only for Apple. Where optimization for nVidia or AMD? Intel and AMD?! DaVinci is now Apple only software?

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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostFri Mar 11, 2022 11:32 am

BaGRoS wrote:..... DaVinci is now Apple only software?


it always has been since blackmagic took over ; -)
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostFri Mar 11, 2022 10:12 pm

BaGRoS wrote:Exactly, I feel and see all last optimization are only for Apple. Where optimization for nVidia or AMD? Intel and AMD?! DaVinci is now Apple only software?

That's a pretty strange argument given that Apple Silicon is such a new architecture. Resolve already supports specific features of the PC/Linux GPUs. Should Apple consumers complain because Resolve supports CUDA and has great performance? ;)

Regarding the Apple Neural Engine. I suppose it's comparable in terms of suitable workloads to Nvidia TensorFlow. Tensor cores are used in specific features/effects in Resolve, not in general editing or rendering.
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostTue Mar 15, 2022 6:24 pm

Jim Simon wrote:Not a huge fan of platform-specific features.


Honestly, I'm glad that BMD is working hard at bringing excellent support the new Apple Silicon environment, support that had existed "optimized" for the PC verse for a long time with CUDA and other technologies already supported in DR. Those are platform-specific features in themselves.
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostTue Mar 15, 2022 6:29 pm

BaGRoS wrote:
Jim Simon wrote:Not a huge fan of platform-specific features.
Exactly, I feel and see all last optimization are only for Apple. Where optimization for nVidia or AMD? Intel and AMD?! DaVinci is now Apple only software?

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OK, what optimization are you looking for that is "missing"? Is the features that have been optimized over the last several versions of DR for Windows PC specific hardware somehow missing in 17.4.x? No, it's that the Apple Silicon environment is new and needs to be addressed where as AMD, nVIDIA have both had a stable API that is consistent across their GPU product lines and has already been heavily optimized in DR.

Feature parity is what's happening, not some slant to Apple only. Just that Apple's finally getting some serious love and attention for the new silicon, leaving it at just Intel macOS would have been a serious performance issue.
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostMon Apr 18, 2022 7:01 pm

BMD, Thank you, thank you, thank you! I am absolutely impressed with your listening to customers.

I see the following in the release notes for DaVinci Resolve Studio 18 Beta 1.

* Apple Neural Engine support for DaVinci Neural Engine on M1 and M1 Pro.

Again, thanks for adding this. I'm excited to see how this impacts performance once DRS 18 is out of beta.
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Re: Bring ANE (Apple Neural Engine) to macOS DaVinci Resolve

PostMon Apr 18, 2022 9:11 pm

BaGRoS wrote:Where optimization for nVidia or AMD? Intel and AMD?! DaVinci is now Apple only software?


There was added performance boosts for Nvidia GPUs fairly recently
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