Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

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Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostFri Nov 05, 2021 7:49 am

It's useful that Resolve has the ability to upload to sites like YouTube and Vimeoe. But I find the current implementation to be less than ideal.

The problem is that we have to use a set preset if we want to upload to a site. Having to use the YouTube Preset to upload to YouTube (and access the new built-in YT chapter support), means it's impossible to customise most render settings when uploading to YT.

As a result a lot of users, myself included, forego the built-in upload. We therefore lose the convenience of automatic upload.

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De-couple uploading from presets. Instead, "Upload to .." should be a separate property in Deliver, configurable on every render with any preset, and saveable in every custom preset.

This would allow any preset to be configured to upload to any site, or even multiple sites per render preset. In future if internet accounts are expanded to allow multiple accounts per site (as has been requested by others), this would allow one video to upload to several YouTube accounts, for example.

With this system, the user could save their own presets which trigger an upload to whatever site they want. The pre-made "Youtube Preset", "Vimeo Preset", etc, would remain for convenience and backwards compatibility, but would no longer be the only way to upload.

If certain sites support only certain codecs, their "Upload settings" could be disabled unless a compatible codec is chosen. Or, ideally, selecting upload to a certain site would automatically filter the codec / bitrate settings according to what that site supports.

Here is a basic mockup of what the UI might look like:

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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostFri Nov 05, 2021 8:24 am

Yep, +1

I post screeners almost daily and can never use the Vimeo/Frame.io presets etc because they don't allow access to settings I always need (like including burnt in subtitles) ... 'Upload' options I can save as part of my custom presets would be the most flexible (though I'd settle for making the fixed presets a tiny bit more flexible).
Let's have a return to the glory days, when press releases for new versions included text like "...with over 300 new features and improvements that professional editors and colorists have asked for."
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostFri Nov 05, 2021 12:00 pm

+1

I agree wholeheartedly with everything that Tom suggests.
Would love to see it slightly improved.
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostSat Nov 06, 2021 7:23 pm

+1 as well, I am surprised it was never added.
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostSun Nov 07, 2021 1:26 am

+1
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostThu Nov 18, 2021 3:07 pm

Definite +1 for this
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostWed Dec 01, 2021 12:04 pm

+1 please
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostWed Dec 01, 2021 7:07 pm

+1
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostSun Dec 19, 2021 8:21 pm

+1
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Apr 12, 2022 6:30 pm

+1 !!

Would be absolutely useful.
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostWed Apr 13, 2022 5:51 pm

+1
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue May 24, 2022 1:23 pm

18b3, no improvement... PLEASE WHY ?
WHY WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO SETTINGS AND PRESETS ???
It looks so basic... is there a reason ?

There are several requests on deliver page, nothing has changed, please consider it...

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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostMon Jul 04, 2022 8:43 am

+1 need it for burn in subtitles through frame IO
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostMon Jul 04, 2022 9:01 am

Please consider it !
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Jul 05, 2022 5:24 am

Link to 18.0 public beta readme
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• Support for video uploads to internet accounts using custom presets.
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Jul 05, 2022 5:37 am

Call me crazy, but I'm absolutely paranoid about making sure our renders are correct, so I manually render them out to a separate drive, check it in 5 or 6 places, make sure the audio is right, the color is right, the file names are right, and all that stuff... and then I manually upload it to wherever it needs to go. I trust nothing. The difference in time is trivial, and I can do other things while the browser is uploading the file in the background.
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Jul 05, 2022 7:22 am

Shrinivas Ramani wrote:Link to 18.0 public beta readme
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• Support for video uploads to internet accounts using custom presets.


Would be great but still not true in 18b5 !
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Jul 05, 2022 7:41 am

Marc Wielage wrote:Call me crazy, but I'm absolutely paranoid about making sure our renders are correct, so I manually render them out to a separate drive, check it in 5 or 6 places, make sure the audio is right, the color is right, the file names are right, and all that stuff... and then I manually upload it to wherever it needs to go. I trust nothing. The difference in time is trivial, and I can do other things while the browser is uploading the file in the background.


You should be talking about the final render for delivery, right ?
But during the wip phase when there are exchanges with the team or with the client, it's so straightfoward to have a button that does everything, you can launch the export and do something else, you know that your file will be online in the right place. And if you have a lot of exports to do, this is really a huge timesaver!! Trust me!

In addition, the interest of Frame.io or Dropbox replay is to have the comments live on the timeline...we also lose this possibility...!

In short, above all, I do not understand why this possibility is not available to us.

Have a nice day !
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Jul 05, 2022 8:27 am

Hi Matt

If you're on Windows or macOS, and signed into one or more internet accounts in preferences, you can find these options under the advanced settings section under video. Please create a new report in the 18.0 public beta if you continue to have issues.

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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Jul 05, 2022 9:42 am

Shrinivas Ramani wrote:Hi Matt

If you're on Windows or macOS, and signed into one or more internet accounts in preferences, you can find these options under the advanced settings section under video. Please create a new report in the 18.0 public beta if you continue to have issues.

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Oh! Sounds great!!
Maybe it's me but I can not find it...
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostMon Jul 18, 2022 3:02 pm

Am I the only one ?
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostMon Jul 18, 2022 8:37 pm

Nope, not just you, its MIA here too. Need to file it as a bug on the R18beta forum.
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostMon Jul 18, 2022 9:16 pm

matttt.p wrote:Am I the only one ?

Look below Subtitle Settings.
But for me only YT appears, I do not see the possibility of exporting to my Frame.io or Dropbox.

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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostFri Jul 22, 2022 9:30 pm

Ok, I've tried, it only works for YT...
Any help BM ?

Thanks !
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostSat Jul 23, 2022 1:46 pm

It only works for YouTube, Vimeo and Twitter... so far there's been no acknowledgement that the limited support is intentional, so I assume it's a bug.
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=164407
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostSat Jul 30, 2022 12:57 pm

+1 for adding subtitle support to the render presets (especially FrameIO for my work, without it it's useles).
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostSat Jul 30, 2022 1:53 pm

Matthew Lumb wrote:+1 for adding subtitle support to the render presets (especially FrameIO for my work, without it it's useles).


Exactly !

Looks like it’s a bug, reported here :

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=164450

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=164407

I’m struggling with that since months but nothing new from Black Magic…
Please BM !!
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostSun Sep 11, 2022 12:21 pm

Any news about that ?
May we could export subtitles to frame.io one day...???
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Re: Decouple internet uploading from specific presets

PostTue Sep 27, 2022 7:14 am

+1... :)

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