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Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostMon Jan 04, 2021 8:01 am

In most programs: Shift + Scroll Wheel scrolls horizontally, Ctrl + Scroll Wheel zooms.

Resolve has these reversed. I'd like to customize them to match other programs!
(Edit: Specifically, scrolling in the edit page. I end up vertically zooming)

A mouse menu (perhaps integrated in to the Keyboard shortcuts menu) would be a cool place for options like this.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostFri Jan 14, 2022 12:58 am

Exactly what I was searching for. We should be able to customize this.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Feb 15, 2022 2:42 am

Agreed. Coming from Premiere the scrolling is reversed.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostThu Feb 17, 2022 7:13 pm

If Enable 2D Timeline Scroll is disabled under the View menu, Resolve's unmodified scrolling is the same as Premiere Pro.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostFri Feb 18, 2022 12:27 am

+1 for the ability to customize the scroll modifiers
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostFri Feb 18, 2022 2:20 am

C.T. Bell wrote:+1 for the ability to customize the scroll modifiers

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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostSat Feb 26, 2022 12:46 pm

+1 for custom mouse wheel modifiers!

It'd be great to customize the mouse buttons too (to swap out the middle mouse button for a modifier with left or right mouse button).
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostFri Mar 04, 2022 1:02 am

C.T. Bell wrote:+1 for the ability to customize the scroll modifiers

YES Please!
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostFri May 06, 2022 11:44 am

C.T. Bell wrote:+1 for the ability to customize the scroll modifiers


+1
Switching between different apps, it's a bit confusing at the end of the day !
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostWed Jun 08, 2022 4:27 am

Just registered to +1 this.

Currently reversed - Cmd is horizontal and Shift is vertical. Needs to be the opposite!
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostSun Jul 31, 2022 7:04 pm

Bump

Scroll wheel should use expected behavior. (Scroll up/down for scrolling up/down. Shift+scroll to scroll Left/Right)

Currently Shift+scroll zooms in on tracks vertically.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Sep 13, 2022 10:21 am

+1 for the ability to customize the scroll modifiers
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

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+1 for this
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostFri Dec 09, 2022 7:04 pm

+1 for this. There are many inconsistencies with the mouse scroll wheel. [scroll] zooms the preview windows on the Edit and Colour pages, but it is [ctrl+scroll] on Fusion. For timeline zoom [ctrl+scroll] should be the standard, NOT [alt+scroll]. Especially since [ctrl+=] is the default for timeline zoom using the keyboard. Knowing many habits have formed, having customizable mouse scroll modifiers would make us all a little more productive. :D
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostMon Dec 19, 2022 6:18 pm

+1 would be super useful to customize that. I'm used to Logic Pro scrolling when producing music and when I switch to video editing my muscle memory is very confused :)
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostWed Feb 01, 2023 10:31 am

+1

But there is a free app Karabiner elements in which you can swap CMD and SHIFT only for Resolve. But you have to remap your basic cmd shortcuts.... like copy, paste, save, undo, etc....

Works great! Finally I can switch between apps without mind f***.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Mar 14, 2023 2:18 am

+1 - need to be able to update scroll wheel functionality.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostSun Mar 19, 2023 2:01 am

+ 1 Indeed.
I personally would like to modify my scroll wheel to scrub my timeline L & R without ctrl (and possibly reverse scroll-up to move foreword/left) and have Ctrl+scroll wheel be the height adjustment
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Mar 21, 2023 1:11 am

Yikes, I made this thread over two years ago. I genuinely wonder what's the holdup? It's not seen as important? It would create conflicts with the iPad version?
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Mar 21, 2023 1:35 am

bellerandre wrote:Yikes, I made this thread over two years ago. I genuinely wonder what's the holdup? It's not seen as important?
Very good questions.

It would also be extremely useful for setting up consistency across the different pages because the mouse modifiers currently behave very differently in different pages. For example, mousewheel in the viewer in the Edit page zooms but in Fusion it scrolls vertically. These kinds of inconsistencies are everywhere.

And I do understand that BMD purchased Fusion and Fairlight and these were already established products, so naturally they would have some differences. But the easiest way to solve this is to provide a Mouse Editor (just like the Keyboard Editor, which is great) and let us customize the mouse buttons and mousewheel ourselves however we like.

Even if BMD made these controls consistent across pages, I doubt I would like what they use anyways... I don't like using the middle mouse button for anything, I'd REALLY like to change that. I also have custom mousewheel modifiers for navigation that I've setup and used in DAWs for over 20 years and it's very comfortable for me, I'd really like to use these in Resolve too.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostThu Mar 23, 2023 2:04 am

bellerandre wrote:Yikes, I made this thread over two years ago. I genuinely wonder what's the holdup? It's not seen as important? It would create conflicts with the iPad version?


Unfortunately two years is not particularly old for a request. Plus, we have no info on what BMD thinks of any requests. They may consider something "worthwhile doing" or "we'll never do that" but they don't give us this information. They certainly don't give us any info on which requests are likely to be acted upon for an upcoming release.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostMon May 01, 2023 5:10 am

+100 this is driving me nuts even after days of sitting on resolve.

comments here seem to mix up premiere, windows and mac, so its not clear what everybody needs.
if they dont want to introduce custom keys in order to keep it simple and stable, they need to know whats the problem. and the probmel is: right now it is against common ui-language. and its even inconsistent in different places.

usually on a os you've got some ui-language that every program should stick to. on windows in almost every program horizontally scrolling is done by shift + mousewheel, while zooming is ctrl + mousewheel.
theese things are stored in muscle-memory!
u should never swap those rules unless you've got a damn good reason (like the non-2d-option for editors, expecting non modified mouswheel to be horizontal scrolling)
but in resolve in edit timeline on windows alt is (horizontal) zoom, ctrl is scroll, shift is vertical zoom.
this seriously should be changed to be sticking to common practice or at least be configurable.
so here it needs one complete rotation: alt would be vertical zoom.
in other panels than edit its even different: this is truely insane.

of course i can work with ctrl and alt, but every 10 minutes i attempt to scroll by shift + wheel, resetting vertical zoom of all tracks, wich is extremly nerve-wrecking while sound-aligning, since i tend to have em all minimized but two where i need to see the waveforms...
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue May 02, 2023 12:31 am

Yup. Muscle memory for things that have become de-facto standards is quite important for ease of use.
I sure hope BMD bumps such items up in priority.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue May 02, 2023 2:51 pm

ichier wrote:+100 this is driving me nuts even after days of sitting on resolve.
I've been sitting with Resolve for almost a year and a half and this still drives me nuts. It's even worse because I switch back and forth between Reaper for audio, where everything is customized exactly the way I like it. I'm primarily and audio guy (not video) and after fighting with trying to edit/mix audio in Resolve, I now render all of my audio out and move over to Reaper to fine tune it and mix. There is just no comparison IMO.

but in resolve in edit timeline on windows alt is (horizontal) zoom, ctrl is scroll, shift is vertical zoom. this seriously should be changed to be sticking to common practice or at least be configurable.
so here it needs one complete rotation: alt would be vertical zoom.
in other panels than edit its even different: this is truely insane.
Definitely configurable for me, since I have set up my own custom navigation shortcuts that I've been using in DAWs for many years.

Mousewheel = scroll horizontal
Shift+Mousewheel = scroll vertical

Then to zoom, simply add Ctrl:
Ctrl+Mousewheel = zoom horizontal
Ctrl+Shift+Mousewheel = zoom vertical

And Resolve doesn't have this feature, but still...
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+mousewheel = zoom waveform

I love that setup and want to be able to use it in Resolve too.

of course i can work with ctrl and alt, but every 10 minutes i attempt to scroll by shift + wheel, resetting vertical zoom of all tracks
Yep, and the worst part is that Resolve isn't even consistent across pages, the viewer windows, nodes/timeline, etc. all behave differently between pages. Mousewheel zooms in the viewer in one page, but scrolls vertical in another because it uses Ctrl+mousewheel to zoom in instead. There is no "muscle memory" in Resolve, even if you only stick to Resolve and don't switch editors.

It's these kinds of seemingly small details that make a huge difference while using the program. Providing a nice mouse editor with a search function just like the Keyboard editor (which overall is very, very nice aside from a bug or two) allowing us to customize the mouse wheel, mouse buttons and modifiers then export and import our settings would go a long way to improving the feel of using Resolve.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostSun May 07, 2023 6:20 pm

This is absolute madness. Every other app on Mac has Shift+Scroll > scrolling horizontally. In Resolve this is NOT possible to do anymore, because they changed it to be CTRL + Scroll.

How about a god dam OPTION to toggle this behaviour???
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostSun May 07, 2023 7:06 pm

Lucas87 wrote:How about a god dam OPTION to toggle this behaviour???
They won't be able to add enough toggles to make everyone happy, so what we really need a custom Mouse Editor where we can assign actions to any modifier of our choosing (for mouse buttons and mouse wheel), just like they have for the keyboard. Then everyone can set it up the mouse buttons and mouse wheel to function exactly how they want.

The DAW Reaper is the model to look at for mouse customization, it's incredible!
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostMon May 08, 2023 9:51 pm

I think the best bang-for-the-buck development-wise would be to add mouse binding to the keyboard customizer. Then add a menu editor that'd let you adjust things as you want. Do their best to make all commands available for binding in both of these places. That would get a lot of requests both off their backs - as users could do it for themselves - and make it very easy for BMD to adjust these things with no per-change programming needed. Plus it would remove the possibility of introducing bugs while making such changes.

I'll also put this in a Feature Request.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue May 09, 2023 2:33 am

Took them 6+ years of people going crazy about the ''retime frame'' being default, before they finally changed it. I imagine we will be waiting for a loooong time. I guess these things will be adressed after the Android version of Resolve.
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+1


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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

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+1 again, driving me crazy...!
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

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Tekkerue wrote:
..we really need a custom Mouse Editor where we can assign actions to any modifier of our choosing (for mouse buttons and mouse wheel), just like they have for the keyboard. Then everyone can set it up the mouse buttons and mouse wheel to function exactly how they want..

+1 !!!!
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue May 23, 2023 2:41 am

+1 I'm constantly back and forth between pro tools and davinci and this throws me completely off!
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostThu May 25, 2023 9:42 am

+1 Yes pleeeaaase! Shouldn't be too difficult, or?
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostSat May 27, 2023 7:58 pm

+1 !!

Please at least a checkbox to replace the actual ALT+SCROLL by simple SCROLL !!

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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostWed Jun 21, 2023 10:20 pm

+1

For the love of sanity... Resolve's navigation feels like it was set up by a child.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostWed Jul 12, 2023 5:16 pm

... wow, I did NOT expect to find this as a 2+ year old feature request that has obviously just been ignored by BMD. I am guessing that this is related to the fact that mouse behavior is internally inconsistent within the program, and it does different things in the different panels as described earlier in this thread. This speaks to a very disjointed development of the program, with different teams working on the different panels independently with little to no oversight before they are just smashed together at the end and calling it a day. I understand the difficulty of tech debt like refactoring your mouse interactions to work off of a common command structure across components, but at some point the work needs to be done.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, muscle memory is an important step in creating workflow efficiency, and right now that is completely impossible in DaVinci Resolve.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostWed Jul 12, 2023 7:18 pm

Need this yesterday. Honestly, though, I'd settle for the modifier at least being consistent on all panels / pages…
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostFri Jul 14, 2023 5:16 pm

bellerandre wrote:In most programs: Shift + Scroll Wheel scrolls horizontally, Ctrl + Scroll Wheel zooms.

Resolve has these reversed. I'd like to customize them to match other programs!
(Edit: Specifically, scrolling in the edit page. I end up vertically zooming)

A mouse menu (perhaps integrated in to the Keyboard shortcuts menu) would be a cool place for options like this.


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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Sep 05, 2023 12:13 pm

+1 !!

Scrolling behaviour in timeline needs to be user customizable.

For now my workaround is disabling 2D timeline scrolling under Preferences>User>UI Settings.

This at least lets me scroll vertically by just using the mouse wheel alone, without any modifier key needed to be pressed.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Sep 05, 2023 12:48 pm

I just don't want to hold ALT to zoom in while scrolling. Maybe this could be modified, too.
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Cmoon... +1
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PostSun Sep 17, 2023 7:01 pm

Tekkerue wrote:+1 for custom mouse wheel modifiers!

It'd be great to customize the mouse buttons too (to swap out the middle mouse button for a modifier with left or right mouse button).

After using Vegas Pro for over 22 years, the mouse wheel functionality in Resolve still confuse me so +1 for this
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

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+1, pretty please.
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostSat Sep 23, 2023 5:10 pm

Damn, I was searching for this in hope that I could swap it around, looks like you can't do it.

I use cubase, premiere and Unreal Engine and this drives me crazy as all the other apps have this around the other way, please change it or offer an option to!!
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostWed Oct 04, 2023 11:23 am

+1
What triggered me the most is that scroll works differently on EDIT and FUSION
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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

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Re: Customize mouse scroll modifiers

PostTue Nov 14, 2023 10:43 pm

+1
I cannot agree more. It is driving me crazy and making me not wanting to use the program.
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