Top 20 UI Bugs In Davinci Resolve Studio 20 Public Beta 2

Good Morning Guys,

After being praised for its AI features & awesome GUI improvements, I decided to test-drive the studio version of Davinci Resolve 20 in its public beta (#2), here are my findings :

Note 1 : Windows DPI of my test machine is 125%, So when you reads UI Display Scale = Auto,
It means >> UI Display Scale = 125% !

Note 2 : All UI bugs were discovered in Edit Page !

01. No flexibility in UI Display Scale available options:



> [Auto] option usually matches the windows dpi scale, what if windows dpi was adjusted to 150% or 200%, while Davinci Resolve offers great readability on 125% or 175% UI display scale, respectively ?
Why no options for 125% or 175% were offered inside Davinci Resolve 20 for such cases ?

>> Suggested Fix : Adding two options for UI Display Scales (125%, 175%)

02. No memory for [Show Page Navigation] on the following cases:

> Normal Operation :



A. Single Monitor - Edit Module - Auto UI Display Scale (125%) - works normally on desktop & laptop.

> Buggy Operation (usually on dual monitor setups):

B. Enabling Dual Monitors



C. Switching Dual Monitors



D. Switching From Edit 2 Fusion



E. Enabling Full Screen Timeline



F. Switching Saved UI Layouts



G. Enabling Use Vertical Resolution



> No Memory Means : Davinci Resolve leaves one of Dual Monitors with [Show Page Navigation] = Enabled

03. No option to disable [Media Pool], Even when it was detached separately in another window:

Full Screen Timeline Off :



Full Screen Timeline On :



04. Non-Clear text on timelines in higher UI Scales: (Open photos to read full comments)

A. UI Display Scale = 100% | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



B. UI Display Scale = 100% | Full Screen Timeline = On :



C. UI Display Scale = 125% | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



D. UI Display Scale = 125% | Full Screen Timeline = On :



E. UI Display Scale = 150% | Full Screen Timeline = On | Timelines In Higher Position :



F. UI Display Scale = 150% | Full Screen Timeline = On | Timelines In Lower Position:



05. No Option For Automatic Proxy Generation On Offline machine with Local storage:



> Instead, it was offered only for Blackmagic Cloud Signed-In accounts !

06. No resizing options for Effects Panel (125% UI Scale):

A. To reveal Long-Named Video Effects | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



B. To reveal Long-Named Audio Effects | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



C. To expand Video Effects over [Media Pool] Panel | Full Screen Timeline = On :



D. To expand Audio Effects over [Media Pool] Panel | Full Screen Timeline = On :



07. No resizing options for Effects Panel (150% UI Scale):

A. To reveal Long-Named Video Effects | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



B. To reveal Long-Named Audio Effects | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



C. To expand Video Effects over [Media Pool] Panel | Full Screen Timeline = On :



D. To expand Audio Effects over [Media Pool] Panel | Full Screen Timeline = On :



08. No resizing options for Keyframes Panel (125% UI Scale):

A. To resize Keyframes panel Horizontally | Curves Mode | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



B. To resize Keyframes panel Horizontally | Parameters Mode | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



C. To expand Keyframes panel Vertically | Curves Mode | Full Screen Timeline = On :



D. To expand Keyframes panel Vertically | Parameters Mode | Full Screen Timeline = On :



09. No resizing options for Keyframes Panel (150% UI Scale):

A. To resize Keyframes panel Horizontally | Curves Mode | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



B. To resize Keyframes panel Horizontally | Parameters Mode | Full Screen Timeline = Off :



C. To expand Keyframes panel Vertically | Curves Mode | Full Screen Timeline = On :



D. To expand Keyframes panel Vertically | Parameters Mode | Full Screen Timeline = On :



10. (Have you tried to undock Keyframes Editor ?): (Open photos to read the comments)

A. No resizing for its Window | UI Display Scale = 125% :



B. No resizing for its Window | UI Display Scale = 150% :



11. No Resizing Option For Inspector Panel (The Big, The Bad & The Perfect):

A. Big Size | UI Display Scale = 150% :



B. Bad Size | UI Display Scale = 125% :



C. Perfect Size | UI Display Scale = 100% :



> Open Photos To Read Values.

>> Suggested Fix : Resizing Options for inspector panel will be the best solution for its problematic size .

12. No Option To Fix\Pin Timelines Position (Common Problem For Laptop Usage):



> Conditions : Full Screen Timeline Off | UI Display Scale = Auto (125%).

13. Audio & Video Slippy Tracks\Timelines (Common Problem For Laptop Usage):

A. Audio Track Doesn't Appear Properly Over Timeline Scroll Bar :



B. Video Track Doesn't Appear Properly Under Timeline Tool Bar :



> Conditions : Full Screen Timeline = Off | UI Display Scale = Auto

14. No option to disable [Media Pool], While editing vertical resolution videos:

A. UI Display Scale = 125% | Full Screen Timeline = Off | Use Vertical Resolution = On :



B. UI Display Scale = 150% | Full Screen Timeline = Off | Use Vertical Resolution = On :



> Additional Condition(s) : UI Settings > User > Use Optimized UI layouts for vertical video (ON)

15. No Options For Resizing [Media Pool] Fixed Area (Common Problem For Laptop Usage):

A. Full Screen Timeline = Off | UI Display Scale = 125% | Use Vertical Resolution = On :



B. Full Screen Timeline = Off | UI Display Scale = 150% | Use Vertical Resolution = On :



> Open photos to read the full comments

16. No Options For Resizing Timeline\Source Viewers (Common Problem For Laptop Usage):

A. Full Screen Timeline = On | UI Display Scale = 125% | Use Vertical Resolution = On :



B. Full Screen Timeline = On | UI Display Scale = 150% | Use Vertical Resolution = On :



> Open photos to read the full comments

17. Expand-Shrink Button Is Greyed Out:

A. I Can't Shrink MetaData Panel Vertically To Expand Index Panel:



B. I Can't Shrink Effects Panel Vertically To Expand Tracks Panel:



C. I Can't Shrink Keyframes Panel Vertically To Expand Markers Panel:



18. No options to categorize VST Effects in custom groups or sorting them by specific filters:



> Open photo to read the full comment

19. No options to display Keyframe curves under timelines directly:



> Open photo to read the full comment

20. Non-Working Button For Expanding Timeline View After Toggling (Use Vertical Resolution):

A. Before Toggling (Use Vertical Resolution) | Full Screen Timeline = On | UI Display Scale = 125% :



B. After Toggling (Use Vertical Resolution) | Full Screen Timeline = On | UI Display Scale = 125% :

Guys, Which One Is The Most Annoying Bug According To Your Daily Workflows ?

[Peter Chamberlain]

These mostly look like feature requests and issues with 125% which isn't a selection offered for UI scaling, so the thread is moved to feature requests.

By the way, UI Display Scale of 150% has its own problems too, like :
- missing parts of the screen
- missing buttons in timeline viewers
- missing buttons in timeline toolbar
where should I report these bugs then ?

[Peter Chamberlain]

Some buttons are not able to be displayed in some smaller screens, some are combined into button with drop-downs.

What size screen are you using?
Can you detail your hardware config.

DUAL MONITOR (DELL P2419H) (1920*1080)
Windows 11 24H2 (26100.3323) (DPI 125%)
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (11GB)
RAM 64GB DDR4
RYZEN 9 5900X

[Peter Chamberlain]

I suggest setting UI scaling in the OS to 100% and then in Resolve set it to 150%.
Then review what items you feel are missing.

I suggest setting UI scaling in the OS to 100% and then in Resolve set it to 150%.
Then review what items you feel are missing.

When Windows DPI Scale Equals 100%, The Text In Windows Appears very small, And, When The UI Display Scale Equals 150%, The Text In DRS 20 Is VEEEEEEEERY BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG. Still, Many Controls Are Missing In 150% Exactly Like Images Posted Above.

In Other Configs (Like My Brother's Setup For Example), His Display Was Configured To [150% (recommended)] By Windows Automatically. Because His Display Was Manufactured @ (1920*1200). And Again, There Are Many Parts That Were Cut-Off From His Monitor.

Trust Me, Sir. I've Tried Everything To Solve These Twenty (20) UI Bugs, Also, I'm Very Surprised Why Many Panels Were Resizable In [Fusion] Page, Like (Inspector) & (Effects), While In [Edit] Page, They Don't Have Resizing Options.

I Don't Even Understand Why (Expand View) Button In (Timeline Toolbar) Appears Only When Editing Vertical Videos. Is It Very Hard For BlackMagicDesign To Enable That Button While Editing The Horizontal Ones ?

I Really Admired The New Keyframe Editor, Yet, I Don't Have The Ability To Edit Keyframe Curves Right Under Audio&Video Tracks\Timelines While Full Screen Timeline Is On ?

Please Fix DRS 20 As Soon As Possible, Because I Can't Edit Videos Anymore Because of Its Current State.

thanks a lot amazing feedbacks for team develop black magic

This is what I see on dual 1920x1080 22" monitors at 100% scaling. I've never had a problem with text size.

This is what I see on dual 1920x1080 22" monitors at 100% scaling. I've never had a problem with text size.

Please Re-Read Again The Note#1 In Post#1:

Note 1 : Windows DPI of my test machine is 125%, So when you reads UI Display Scale = Auto,
It means >> UI Display Scale = 125% !

Also, My Feedback Was Focused On 20 UI Bugs, Which Were Discovered On UI Display Scales Higher Than 100%, 18 of them Were Found In [Edit] Page Only.

If You Don't Have Any Problems Using 100% UI Scale, That's Ok. But, You Need To Understand That Not Every Editor Has Your Power Of Eye Sight, Mr. Charles !

For those of us who set their monitor scaling to the recommended 100% in Windows Display/Scale and Layout, and 100% on the GPU when using HD screens, there is no problem. This has been the case with all Resolve versions from 14 until now.
As to eyesight, I'm 72 and wear glasses and have no problem with reading the on screen text .
This is my 3 screen setup all at 100% scaling, including the Clean Feed.

Does Resolve now claim to support Windows UI scaling? If so it’s totally reasonable to report bugs with it. But I’m not sure they announced that it’s supposed to be working now.

Does Resolve now claim to support Windows UI scaling? If so it’s totally reasonable to report bugs with it. But I’m not sure they announced that it’s supposed to be working now.

So, What Option [Auto] Was Programed For, Then ? Decoration Purposes Or Marketing Purposes ?

If The Devs Put It In [UI Settings] Under [User] Directory, Then It Was Meant To Be Used By Users Themselves.

Again, I have Two Monitors 24" (P2419H) (1920*1080) Manufactured By Dell, And I Can't Read Text When Windows DPI\Davinci UI Scale Was Adjusted To 100%. Also, The 150% UI Display Scale Has Its Fair Share Of Bugs Too, Why No One Talked About It ?

I’m just asking the question. I’m on a Mac so can’t speak to this from experience.

Yes if there’s a control inside of Resolve then it should behave properly. Not sure though if it’s ok to change it in Windows settings.

For those of us who set their monitor scaling to the recommended 100% in Windows Display/Scale and Layout, and 100% on the GPU when using HD screens, there is no problem. This has been the case with all Resolve versions from 14 until now.

A Wise Man Once Said :

Don't limit everyone else's scope to match yours

If BMD says they don’t support changing the Windows scaling number then it’s they who are limiting the scope.

Again I’m not sure they say this now but I am sure they’ve said it for earlier versions of Resolve.

If BMD says they don’t support changing the Windows scaling number then it’s they who are limiting the scope.

Funny Trivia :
Davinci Resolve Offers The Following UI Display Scales :
(Auto - 100% - 150% - 200%), Determine The Value Of Auto ?
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The Answer Is :
Auto = Windows DPI
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For Monitors With Davinci UI Scale = 150% & Windows DPI = 150%, There Are Many Items Not Shown Correctly On The Screen, Besides, Many Panels Are Very Big (Inspector, Effects, KeyFrame Editor.... etc) .

For Monitors With Davinci UI Scale = Auto & Windows DPI = 125%, The Previously Mentioned Panels Took Too Much Space On The Screen, Besides Text Looks Horrible In Timelines Area (Bug 04 : C & D) .

The Solution Is : Copying Resize Mechanism From [Fusion] Panels Into [Edit] Panels (Especially Effects, Keyframe Editor & Inspector), With The Ability To Close [Media Pool] And Adding [Expand View] Button While Editing Horizontal Videos (Like Vertical Ones), Will Be Very Satisfying For Many Editors, Who Are Suffering From The Absence of Customizable Interface of Davinci Resolve .

[Expand View] Button Location (Appears Only After Toggling Use Vertical Resolution) :



P.S. Setting My Windows DPI Or Davinci UI Scale To 100% Can't Be Considered As A Solution At All !.

What happens if you set Windows scale to 100 and change just Resolve’s scale? I THINK that’s what’s intended to be done.

What happens if you set Windows scale to 100 and change just Resolve’s scale? I THINK that’s what’s intended to be done.

I Can't See Text Clearly @Windows DPI = 100%

I Can't See Text Clearly @Davinci UI Scale = 100%

I Can't See Text Clearly @Windows DPI = 100% &
I Can't See Text Clearly @Davinci UI Scale = 100%

I’m asking what happens if you set Windows scale to 100 and Resolve to say 200.

Request for Better Photo Management, Sorting, and Optimization

In DaVinci Resolve, managing and optimizing the order of photos is incredibly complicated, if not impossible, requiring exhausting manual procedures that consume substantial time. I believe workflow optimization for photography would be highly beneficial, especially as more photographers and photography enthusiasts adopt the program.
I have not found an effective method to manage the correct ordering of photos before transferring them to the timeline. In a YouTube video I watched, someone used the rename functionality of the free FastStone Image Viewer software to sequentially rename photos in batch mode (e.g., 0001.jpg, 0002.jpg, 0003.jpg, etc.).
Once imported into DaVinci, you need to renumber them one after another to achieve the desired sequence. This process is absolutely unmanageable for many photos - you waste an infinite amount of time, and the procedure remains very problematic with poor results that divert resources from the purely artistic component.
Let me illustrate with a specific example:
I have 19 photos - 9 of nature and 10 of architecture. I've had FastStone batch rename these images as I just described: 0001.jpg, 0002.jpg up to 0019.jpg.
Let's say I want to create a slideshow in DaVinci with the first 10 photos featuring nature and the subsequent 9 featuring architecture. In this sequence timeline:
0001.jpg 0002.jpg 0008 0015 0010 0016 0017 0018 0019 (architecture) 0014 0005 0013 0004 0006 0007 0009 0012 0003 0011
As shown in a screenshot I've attached, when trying to drag a photo (for example, photo 0008) to the third position in the timeline sequence, this operation is not allowed in DaVinci.
In my opinion, this is a truly significant limitation that, if removed, would help manage and better organize clips.

https://ibb.co/wZCRvCyw

I am hopeful that this crucial functionality will be implemented in a future update.
Thank you very much,
Marco

Two things Marco
1) you should start you own thread
2) in v20, you can change the bin sort order to 'custom' and then rearrange manually as needed

Going back to the UI scaling, all three of my HD monitors are set to native scaling in the Nvidia Control Panel which is 1920x1080, that is 100%. The recommended 100% in the Windows System Display settings is also being used. The Resolve UI is then scaled correctly. Using higher than 100% scaling on 1920x1080 monitors will result in the UI not fitting the screens properly which will also cause some on screen controls and menus not being properly visible. The 150% and 200% options in the preferences are for screens with higher resolutions such as 3840x2160.
Here again is what I see at the correct scaling for my monitors, and certainly see no bugs. Apart from getting additional functions on screen, this is the way Resolve has always been since I started with version 14.

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This is the normal dual screen Edit page.

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Here again is what I see at the correct scaling for my monitors, and certainly see no bugs. Apart from getting additional functions on screen, this is the way Resolve has always been since I started with version 14.

Yeah, that's pretty close to what I see on Mac Sequoia 15.4.1, using 2550x1440 displays. No issues for me, either.

More than one Windows user has asked for a 125% magnification mode, so this is a thing going back a few years.

sorry delete this post

sorry delete this post

Two things Marco
1) you should start you own thread
2) in v20, you can change the bin sort order to 'custom' and then rearrange manually as needed

hello friend thank you as you suggested I opened my post directly, as per the attached link:

but I didn't understand how to do it, could you take some screenshots?
so I can understand better.
at this point answer me directly in my link:

https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=221640

thank you very much bye marco

Going back to the UI scaling, all three of my HD monitors are set to native scaling in the Nvidia Control Panel which is 1920x1080, that is 100%. The recommended 100% in the Windows System Display settings is also being used. The Resolve UI is then scaled correctly. Using higher than 100% scaling on 1920x1080 monitors will result in the UI not fitting the screens properly which will also cause some on screen controls and menus not being properly visible. The 150% and 200% options in the preferences are for screens with higher resolutions such as 3840x2160.
Here again is what I see at the correct scaling for my monitors, and certainly see no bugs. Apart from getting additional functions on screen, this is the way Resolve has always been since I started with version 14.

Again

I Can't See Text Clearly @Windows DPI = 100% &
I Can't See Text Clearly @Davinci UI Scale = 100%

I Have The Full Right To Use Davinci UI Scales Higher Than 100%, Because My Monitors Are Scaled @ 3840x1080 !

(1920 x 1080 + 1920 x 1080) => 3840x1080 !

I have Two Monitors 24" (P2419H) (1920*1080) Manufactured By Dell, And I Can't Read Text When Windows DPI\Davinci UI Scale Was Adjusted To 100%.

Your UI scaling issues aside, Ahmed, genuinely, you might want to consider getting some glasses... 1920x1080 on a 24 inch monitor shouldn't really need scaling for most normal desktop setups... my basic Resolve GUI setup is similar, 2x 24 inch 1920x1200 monitors (primary and secondary), on a monitor riser on the desk in front of me. With glasses it's no issue, and at lower resolutions (real or scaled) then you'll start to suffer layout issues in Resolve, as it doesn't work at its best at lower resolutions.

Your UI scaling issues aside, Ahmed, genuinely, you might want to consider getting some glasses... 1920x1080 on a 24 inch monitor shouldn't really need scaling for most normal desktop setups... my basic Resolve GUI setup is similar, 2x 24 inch 1920x1200 monitors (primary and secondary), on a monitor riser on the desk in front of me. With glasses it's no issue, and at lower resolutions (real or scaled) then you'll start to suffer layout issues in Resolve, as it doesn't work at its best at lower resolutions.

So, Your Solution For Resolve's :

1. Blurry or Disintegrated Text (125%)
2. Bigger Panel Sizes (125% & Higher)
3. Buggy Buttons (Expand View\Shrink)
4. Missing Parts of The Screen (150%)
5. Non-Resizable Panels (125% and Higher)
6. Buggy Workspace Options (Show Page Navigation)
7. Non-Precise Keyframe Editor (Fullscreen Timeline On)

Is Getting Some Glasses ?

I Have Bad News For You, I'm Wearing Glasses Right Now !

Anyone With Brilliant Solutions Other Than Mocking My Medical Conditions ?

Get a grip, Ahmed, no one is mocking your 'medical conditions'. I wear glasses too, its pretty normal.

Get a grip, Ahmed, no one is mocking your 'medical conditions'. I wear glasses too, its pretty normal.

Why This Forum Was Created Then ?

To Offer Other Members -Who Are Suffering From DRS's User Interface Buggy Situations- To Lower Their Windows DPI Configuration Or Their UI Display Scales To 100 % ?

Why Did I Wrote My Post With 54 Enlarged Images At The First Place ?

If I understand it correctly, the minimum display resolution required by Resolve for proper use is 1680x1050 ... you are working with dual 1920 x 1080 displays but using UI scaling at 125%, which means Resolve will see them as dual 1536 x 864 displays ...which is below the required minimum for proper use.

If I understand it correctly, the minimum display resolution required by Resolve for proper use is 1680x1050 ... you are working with dual 1920 x 1080 displays but using UI scaling at 125%, which means Resolve will see them as dual 1536 x 864 displays ...which is below the required minimum for proper use.

What About My Brother's Setup ? PA248CRV (1920*1200), Which Was Automatically Adjusted By Windows To 150% (Recommended) ? He Can't Use Davinci Resolve @ 150% UI Display Scale Because Of Missing Parts On The Screen !

What About My Brother's Setup ?

A 1920x1200 screen @ 150% scale would provide even less resolution for Resolve to use than your own setup, well below the minimum requirement, so consequent UI issues should not be surprising. To be clear, I commiserate with you regarding you and your brother's situation, but at the end of the day I'm just not sure it's really fair to use a setup that doesn't meet minimum requirements and then declare the results of doing that as 'UI bugs'.

Regardless, my only aim in contributing to your thread was to try provide you with some info that may be helpful so you can figure out how best to address the situation for yourself and your brother.

Good luck
Andy

A 1920x1200 screen @ 150% scale would provide even less resolution for Resolve to use than your own setup, well below the minimum requirement, so consequent UI issues should not be surprising. To be clear, I commiserate with you regarding you and your brother's situation, but at the end of the day I'm just not sure it's really fair to use a setup that doesn't meet minimum requirements and then declare the results of doing that as 'UI bugs'.

The UI Bugs Mentioned In This Topic Can Be Solved Only If Black Magic Design Gives Us Only 5 Options :
1. Expand View Button For Horizontal Videos (Like Vertical Ones)
2. The Option To Resize All Panels (Timeline Viewer - Effects - Metadata - Inspects - Keyframe Editor)
3. The Option To Expand Every Vertical Panel (Effect \ MetaData \ Keyframe) Over All Horizontal Panels
4. The Option To Edit Keyframe Curves Under Audio\Video Timeline Directly (Full Screen Timeline-On)
5. The Option To Close Media Pool Panel (Especially In Edit Page)

To answer your no.1, you can always use a single viewer, switch between Source and Timeline with the Q key, and expand the image to its maximum. You could also add a third monitor like I have and use Clean Feed for a full screen image.

To answer your no.1, you can always use a single viewer, switch between Source and Timeline with the Q key, and expand the image to its maximum. You could also add a third monitor like I have and use Clean Feed for a full screen image.

Why No Solutions Offered In This Topic,
Involves Requesting A Quick Debugging From BMD,
Instead of Asking Me To Change My :
1. Setting
2. Setup
3. Scaling
To Match Another Editor's Workflow ?



The Reported Bugs Were Resulted From Using BMD's Product, Thus, The Solution of These Bugs,
Must Be Performed On Their Side, Not Mine.

Solutions have been offered, especially regarding having your displays set up properly. Also dual screens does not equal 3840x1080, they are still two individual 1920x1080 displays. With the screens set up properly the Resolve UI displays correctly. That is your responsibility and not BMD's. End of story.

Solutions have been offered, especially regarding having your displays set up properly. Also dual screens does not equal 3840x1080, they are still two individual 1920x1080 displays. With the screens set up properly the Resolve UI displays correctly. That is your responsibility and not BMD's. End of story.

You're Absolutely Wrong, Mr.Charles !

Here's Why :

1. (Expand View) Button Is Viewable Only After Toggling On (Use Vertical Resolution).
2. Panels Are Totally Resizable In [Fusion] Page, In [Edit] Page, Panels Are Not Resizable.
3. Resolve Was Programmed To Suit Many DPI Setups As Much As Possible, Not Just (100%).
4. You Can Close [Media Pool] In Vertical Resolution Mode, In Horizontal Resolution, You Can't.
5. You Can View Keyframe Curves In Its Vertical Panel, While In Timelines Area, You Can't View Them.

Copying Code From One Module To Another Isn't Too Much Hard For Company Like Black Magic Design.

End of Story.

No Mentions To Any Fixes Regarding The Reported Bugs In The First Post
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=221078#p1144807
Inside The Release Notes of Davinci Resolve Studio 20 Public Beta #4
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=221814#p1148715