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Jim Simon

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Fusion Audio

PostThu Aug 08, 2019 8:45 pm

It'd be helpful if we could both see and hear audio in the Fusion page.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostFri Aug 09, 2019 6:00 pm

Once we actually get audio on the Fusion page, we need to control it's monitoring volume. I think the following Feature Request would serve well here.

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=96327

To wit:

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Re: Fusion Audio

PostMon Dec 16, 2019 1:21 pm

+1 ... this would be nice.

Extra details about my current usage: When editing a photo montage using Fusion, it's cumbersome to flip back-and-forth to/from other tabs while tweaking fusion values to ensure affected fusion nuances are sync'ed with audio. When moving photos around in 3D space w/Fusion, it can be even more of a bear when wanting photos to move at certain cadences, in certain directions, with certain momentum along with music.

But really this seems as though it'd apply to any sync'ing, audio, music, photos, moving footage, and so forth.

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Re: Fusion Audio

PostTue Jan 14, 2020 9:46 pm

+1 Again for this.

The lack of audio preview really limits making any animation that needs to be tied to a voice over or music.

I've done a lot of motion graphics for ads with voice over and I can't consider using Fusion for that over After Effects until I could have a faster method of matching image to sound as I work. Which is a shame because I really love Fusion and greatly prefer it to AE.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostMon Feb 03, 2020 7:38 pm

You could time out the audio with text generators in the edit page and place them on track 02, create a fusion clip with the content from V1 & V2 selected. The text generators will be your in/out queues for your animation.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostWed Feb 05, 2020 4:44 pm

Nice trick Micheal! Very useful.

But I do hope the developers won't see that as the solution here. Seeing and hearing audio in Fusion is still an important feature to have, I think.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostThu Mar 26, 2020 8:54 pm

+1 on this!
To be able to time out effects in fusion to timeline audio cues would be great.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostSat Mar 28, 2020 6:49 pm

+1 for this feature.
It is a must in some use case, to sync action with sounds or speech.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostSat Apr 25, 2020 6:11 pm

yes please!
Audio in Fusion standalone
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostSun Jun 07, 2020 3:41 pm

+1
Really hard to sync video to audio without the latter.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostSat Sep 19, 2020 4:10 pm

Being able to hear the audio while we work in Fusion is critical to being able to properly synch video with audio.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostSat Oct 31, 2020 7:40 pm

There's several problems I see with this.

First off, it seems like people in this topic are requesting two different things. Some want to be able to hear clips that are part of the composition. Like the following-

John_H wrote:"To be able to time out effects in fusion to timeline audio cues would be great.


Others want to be able to hear audio from the timeline while in Fusion.

RandyOK wrote:+1 on this!
To be able to time out effects in fusion to timeline audio cues would be great.


With others, it's ambiguous which they want.

These two suggestions aren't the same the thing. The former is needed, the latter is a bandage to one problem caused by Fusion's poor implementation into Resolve.

If you have a title open in Fusion, you won't even see the footage below it never mind hear it. That's because Fusion doesn't really work on a timeline scale, it works at a clip scale just like all other compositing software and that's fine. If audio from the timeline can be heard in Fusion then that's a bad thing because it means the compositions themselves would still exist within the timeline.

The problem with compositions existing within in the timeline is that very complex compositions can be accidentally be deleted during editing. You can save a composition to the bin to prevent that from happening but that's just a copy and there's no relation to them. This means that if you have the same composition used multiple times in the project, changing one won't propagate changes to the others. All copies are that composition are completely separate.

A better solution would be to take inspiration from Adobe's Essential Graphics or SideFX Houdini and create a panel that allows Fusion compositions to expose controls (start/end keyframe, position, colors, etc) to the Edit page without converting the composition into a macro. Doing this would allow a master composition whose changes would propagate to others and it would allow a bunch of parameters of the composition to be changed and keyframed within the Edit page.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostSun Nov 01, 2020 3:09 pm

Mark Grgurev wrote:hear clips that are part of the composition.

That was my intent with the original request. To hear the audio portion of any media actually in the Fusion Comp.

Combined with my second request (moving the Volume control), I think the needs of most would be well served.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostSun Nov 01, 2020 6:09 pm

Jim Simon wrote:That was my intent with the original request. To hear the audio portion of any media actually in the Fusion Comp.


+1 then lol

Jim Simon wrote:Combined with my second request (moving the Volume control), I think the needs of most would be well served.


I've actually suggested something similar before but I thought adding it to the page navigation would be better since it's the volume for the program overall and having it in page navigation would keep it in one consistent spot. I'm not opposed to it being in the transport controls area though. That's still better than not having a volume slider in the Fusion page.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostMon Nov 02, 2020 3:46 pm

While having more integration of Fusion on the Edit page is great, my preference is primarily to be able to hear audio in Fusion during work there.

A reworked MediaIN node that supports audio could be great way to achieve this in Fusion. Especially if you could see both image and waveform (or waveform only if it's an audio only source).
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostMon Nov 02, 2020 7:37 pm

Derek Howard wrote:While having more integration of Fusion on the Edit page is great, my preference is primarily to be able to hear audio in Fusion during work there.

A reworked MediaIN node that supports audio could be great way to achieve this in Fusion. Especially if you could see both image and waveform (or waveform only if it's an audio only source).


Its out of the scope of this topic but, I actually feel that the Fusion page and Edit page should only really communicate via composition controls on the clip. MediaIns should only be used to represent arbitrary media or inputs and Loaders should replace MediaIns for an references to specific media. I go into it in this topic. The whole idea is to streamline Resolve to reduce the requirement of page changing and better conveying how Resolve actually works via it's interface.

Anyway, I don't want to veer the topic off-course. :-)
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostMon Nov 02, 2020 11:56 pm

Derek Howard wrote:A reworked MediaIN node that supports audio


That would do the job.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostTue Nov 03, 2020 1:05 am

+1
It's a necessity.
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Re: Fusion Audio

PostMon Nov 09, 2020 7:29 pm

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