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Volume Control

PostFri Aug 09, 2019 5:55 pm

New Idea: (Old one isn't practical for space reasons.)
Add a drop down or right click option to the Volume control that allows us to select whether it affects the Source Viewer or the Timeline Viewer (with the later being the default).



Original Idea:
I'd love to move the Volume Control on Edit page to make it part of the Transport Controls, and available for all Viewers. Like so:

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Re: Volume Control

PostFri Aug 09, 2019 5:57 pm

If it's a Timeline Viewer, changes made on one page would propagate. If I lower it on Deliver, that would reflect in Cut, Edit and Color as well.

If I change it on the Media page, then the Source Viewer volume of the Edit page would follow.
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Re: Volume Control

PostFri Aug 16, 2019 6:42 pm

Btw, which is the default (unity) on that control, all the way top the right?
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Re: Volume Control

PostFri Aug 16, 2019 9:07 pm

No, somewhere around 70 to 80% seems to be the default volume.
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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 12:33 am

Jim Simon wrote:No, somewhere around 70 to 80% seems to be the default volume.


They're should be a lock point or reset...

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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 3:21 pm

A popup does appear if you click and move. Seems to be set at -6 by default.
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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 5:10 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:They're should be a lock point
Fixed level monitoring may be configured in the B-Chain Control window
(Fairlight > Immersive > B-Chain Control)

or reset...
Alt/Opt clicking the “volume” slider resets playback monitoring level.
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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 5:28 pm

Reynaud Venter wrote:Alt clicking the “volume” slider resets playback monitoring level.


That actually puts it to full, which isn't the default.

(Nice tip, though.)
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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 5:34 pm

Jim Simon wrote:That actually puts it to full, which isn't the default.
The default is incorrect (as is the default level for fixed level monitoring).
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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Aug 17, 2019 5:37 pm

Reynaud Venter wrote:The default is incorrect


I won't argue that.

I would only say it's not relevant to this particular Feature Request.

Perhaps a bug report is in order?
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Re: Volume Control

PostSun Aug 18, 2019 6:34 am

Jim Simon wrote:Perhaps a bug report is in order?
In the case of the playback monitoring level, Resolve preserves the user specified level between application boots, so the default setting can be arbitrary.
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Re: Volume Control

PostSun Aug 18, 2019 11:22 pm

Reynaud Venter wrote:Resolve preserves the user specified level between application boots


But the 'default' for new projects seems to be at -6 or so.

Whether that is 'correct' or not would be the issue you're concerned with, yes?
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Aug 19, 2019 6:07 am

Jim Simon wrote:Whether that is 'correct' or not would be the issue you're concerned with, yes?
Yes - but in practice the reset shortcut corrects the issue.
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Aug 19, 2019 1:59 pm

OK. So we're back to not so much relevant to this particular Feature Request, which asks to move the Volume control to the Transport Controls for all Timeline and Source Viewers.
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Aug 19, 2019 6:16 pm

Sorry, while I support the feature requested, I still don't understand how to put the audio playback in "unity":

Im not doing audio per see, I heat a final 5.1 from a mix company and I have to place in the timeline and hit play at level/unity.

How to do that relayably?
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Aug 19, 2019 8:28 pm

Maybe a "How To" question is better asked in the regular forums?
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Re: Volume Control

PostTue Aug 20, 2019 7:10 am

waltervolpatto wrote:Sorry, while I support the feature requested, I still don't understand how to put the audio playback in "unity":

Im not doing audio per see, I heat a final 5.1 from a mix company and I have to place in the timeline and hit play at level/unity.

How to do that relayably?


All the way to the right is 0db unity setting. On Mac option-click to set it.
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Re: Volume Control

PostWed Aug 21, 2019 3:37 pm

Peter Cave wrote:
waltervolpatto wrote:Sorry, while I support the feature requested, I still don't understand how to put the audio playback in "unity":

Im not doing audio per see, I heat a final 5.1 from a mix company and I have to place in the timeline and hit play at level/unity.

How to do that relayably?


All the way to the right is 0db unity setting. On Mac option-click to set it.


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Re: Volume Control

PostSun Apr 04, 2021 4:10 pm

Version 17 has been officially released, and man what an incredible update!

BMD can't do everything we want in the "next version", so I wanted to bump this idea, which didn't make the cut for 17.
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Apr 05, 2021 6:48 am

There isn't sufficient space with the smallest screen res we support.
It barely fits into the toolbar.
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Apr 05, 2021 4:10 pm

Well that's frustrating. :cry:

Especially since I recently tested Resolve at 1080, and it was horrible!

(1440 should be the minimum recommended, I think.)

But...I suppose it's better to know then forever hope.
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Apr 05, 2021 4:15 pm

OK. So the idea here is to incorporate separate volume controls for each viewer. Often times we make adjustments to clip or track volume in the timeline and set its volume accordingly.

At the same time, original media loaded into the Source Viewer ends up blasting our eardrums at that same volume. Or being too soft at that timeline volume.

So if there's another way to separate those volume controls, that would still achieve the same purpose of this Request.

On overlay icon along with the Grab Video and Grab Audio maybe?

A Drop Down in the tools menu beneath Annotations?

Something. (Ideally identical for both monitors, though.)
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Re: Volume Control

PostTue Apr 06, 2021 4:25 pm

Here's another idea.

Leave the single Volume control right where it is, but add a drop down or right click option to choose whether it affects the Timeline Viewer, or the Source Viewer (with the Timeline being the default).
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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Sep 04, 2021 5:32 pm

I'm finally going through the Beginner's Guide, and there really needs to be a Volume control on the Cut page.

If that means requiring a higher res for a minimum, so be it. (Personally, I think 1440 would be a workable choice.)
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Re: Volume Control

PostSat Sep 04, 2021 8:11 pm

Sorry Jim, but these are both terrible ideas.
-1 for separate volume controls
-1 for forcing 1440 as a new minimum GUI resolution


Fyi, on the Cut Page... click the speaker icon to mute/unmute, right click to access the level control.
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Re: Volume Control

PostSun Sep 05, 2021 3:03 pm

Ah, the right click is nice. Didn't know about that. Thanks.

But I still argue for separating Volume for Source and Timeline Viewers.

Audio adjustments made to clips in a timeline, or to whole tracks, don't apply to the Source Viewer, so different volume levels for Source and Timeline are often necessary, and constantly changing the one Volume control is a PITA.

How BMD implements the feature is incidental to me. Trying to work with Resolve at 1080 is also a PITA, so 1440 seems a good minimum for them to adopt. But again, this is incidental. Choosing between Source and Timeline with a right click or drop down on the one Volume control would suffice.
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Re: Volume Control

PostMon Aug 01, 2022 4:35 pm

Version 18 was just released. Not all Feature Requests can be done at once, and this one didn't make the cut.

So here it is for continued voting.
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Re: Volume Control

PostThu Sep 01, 2022 9:22 am

Separate volume controls for Source and Timeline Viewers are mandatory !!
I'm waiting for this since I started to use Davinci Resolve.
Having to change the master volume every time the raw material is at a too low/high level is really bad.
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Re: Volume Control

PostThu Sep 01, 2022 1:56 pm

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