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+1 Absolutely. Simple drag and drop tracks up and down please

Also, like almost every other multimedia programme, can you please implement simple zoom in/out using scroll wheel on the time ruler?

Seems it is still no quick option for moving Tracks Up/Down in Resolve 17. Have no idea why it is so complicated add two little arrows to track header instead of stupid right-click menu.

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It's all the more inexplicable because you can do it in Fairlight.

Even then you have to do it in the index and not the timeline itself.

It's frustrating that it hasn't made it into 17 yet, it's been requested for a long time.

AndrewKeil wrote:It's all the more inexplicable because you can do it in Fairlight.

That's so many things in Resolve right now.

+1 PLEASE!

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Yes, the ability to be able to insert a new track at the location of the mouse pointer, and to be able to move existing tracks up or down by SH/CTRL/scrolling (or somesuch combination) would be great.

Oh, and could you make the contrast between the track labels on the left and the horizontal dividing lines between them a little greater, 'cos I'm often left searching for them to resize a track's view?
Ta!

Mxx

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Audio and video, multiple tracks too

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please devs, this would help me so much in my workflow. I got many dozens video tracks per project. Please make this possible!

For sure, the great feature of Vegas was the ability to drag and drop not only clips, but timeline tracks. Very much anticipated feature in DaVinci.

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it's 2021 and this issues is still a thing??

+1 Quadrillion. Having to switch to Fairlight tab is pain to do this.

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Also Control/Shift Select multiple video/audio tracks to reorder/delete. When importing time lines from other software, sometimes clean up is required and eliminating unneeded tracks or reordering them is necessary.

is this ever gonna happen? Seems so basic and so needed.

I'm also still waiting for this

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Additionally, we should be able to group tracks. I have about 10 dialogue tracks and I have to stumble over them to work on music or SFX. We should be able to hit an arrow (I forget what they're called) and quickly close those 10 tracks into 1 short one just named DIALOGUE. This can probably be done by going through some menus but an arrow right there by the mute would be so much quicker.

The track colors on the far left should be expandable. They can be useful but are also too small to actually be useful.

And very useful (necessary, I would say) to be able to select and drag *mulitple* tracks in one go.

Yeah that would be great

Moving single or multiple tracks up and down with the mouse, or inserting a track above or below an existing one is a function that should be there. You can do it in Pro Tools for instance.

Galin, you are thinking of Folder Tracks where you can collapse a number of tracks into one to de-clutter the timeline while you work.

As to track colors I think a broader palette would be of benefit.
Just for fun I took the Pro Tools session of a project and had a go at matching the Fairlight rough tracklay to it. I think you can guess which I prefer.

Charles Bennett wrote:Moving single or multiple tracks up and down with the mouse, or inserting a track above or below an existing one is a function that should be there.

Both are currently possible.

Tracks may be re-ordered via the Fairlight Track Index.

The Add Tracks command provides the option to designate the insertion position of new Audio Tracks.

Reynaud Venter wrote:

Charles Bennett wrote:Moving single or multiple tracks up and down with the mouse, or inserting a track above or below an existing one is a function that should be there.

Both are currently possible.

Tracks may be re-ordered via the Fairlight Track Index.

The Add Tracks command provides the option to designate the insertion position of new Audio Tracks.

Not with the video tracks AFAIK.

That's the thing Reynaud, using the Edit Index. Surely it would be far more elegant to do it with the mouse just dragging the track headers to where you want them just as you can in PT?

waltervolpatto wrote:Not with the video tracks AFAIK.

Add Tracks w/ insertion point designation works the same for Video tracks as it does for Audio tracks.
Drag and drop reordering of tracks in the Edit Index is Audio Tracks only ... but to be fair, re-ordering video tracks is a far more niche requirement that reordering audio tracks. Reordering audio tracks is just an organisational thing, reordering video tracks directly affects the render pipeline, so it's not something one might do 'casually'.

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+1 this needs to be added!!

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I've never understood in general why video edit software has non movable video and audio tracks when DAWs don't.
Feels way too old fashioned.

shebbe wrote:I've never understood in general why video edit software has non movable video and audio tracks when DAWs don't.

I'd guess its because movable video tracks is a very niche requirement given that it has potentially massive consequences on video export vs movable audio tracks which is purely an organisational thing.

Andy Mees wrote:

shebbe wrote:I've never understood in general why video edit software has non movable video and audio tracks when DAWs don't.

I'd guess its because movable video tracks is a very niche requirement given that it has potentially massive consequences on video export vs movable audio tracks which is purely an organisational thing.

1) not if you are win the middle of the creative process
2) in online phase, we constantly get updated vfx and other parts, you get a new EDL and assemble on top then you need to move it down the pipe in the correct place: if you move it down 4 tracks, is four actions instead of click drag done.

waltervolpatto wrote:1) not if you are win the middle of the creative process
2) in online phase, we constantly get updated vfx and other parts, you get a new EDL and assemble on top then you need to move it down the pipe in the correct place: if you move it down 4 tracks, is four actions instead of click drag done.

Fair points Walter, everyone's workflows are different, I stand corrected. I often need to mute tracks, insert tracks, duplicate tracks etc as part of the creative process but just because I've never needed to reorder tracks doesn't mean its not necessary for others so I'm definitely guilty of filtering my thoughts here through my own creative workflow perspectives.

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There could be a zone (with dots) on the left of the track where we could just click and drag any track to any level. With a ctrl+click, we could select the tracks, and move them all in once then by clicking on the far left and drag them up or down

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Still in 2022 waiting for this update. Like in Adobe Premiere Pro, highlight the clip, then press SHIFT+W or S for up and down. This should be not a lot of programming involved. Hope they will add this soon.

waltervolpatto wrote:

Andy Mees wrote:

shebbe wrote:I've never understood in general why video edit software has non movable video and audio tracks when DAWs don't.

I'd guess its because movable video tracks is a very niche requirement given that it has potentially massive consequences on video export vs movable audio tracks which is purely an organisational thing.

1) not if you are win the middle of the creative process
2) in online phase, we constantly get updated vfx and other parts, you get a new EDL and assemble on top then you need to move it down the pipe in the correct place: if you move it down 4 tracks, is four actions instead of click drag done.

Spot on with point 2.

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MaikKleinert wrote:+1
Still in 2022 waiting for this update. Like in Adobe Premiere Pro, highlight the clip, then press SHIFT+W or S for up and down. This should be not a lot of programming involved. Hope they will add this soon.

You're probably mixing up this feature. This is to move a entire track up/down, You can move a clip up/down by highlighting it and using OPT+the up/down arrow keep.

@BMD can you please make this happen. It is VERY cumbersome to right click, move down, repeat for 10000 times when you have a lot of tracks to deal with. Also, when adding a track, that track should be created right up or down the original one you right-clicked, not at the top.

Does anyone know if this feature will be in V18? I do mostly music video with up to 15 video tracks that morph into each other. When I need to move video tracks to the bottom, it sure takes a long time. Drag and drop reordering seems like such a basic function (coming from the DAW world). What's the big hang-up on this being implemented? I'd gladly toss some more money in to make it happen.

It's 2023...

Coming from Cubase & Pro Tools - "click drag & drop" and track folder grouping would be ideal.
Much faster and better for organising large sessions as mentioned by others.

Perhaps now that the iPad version is out, this could be a more important feature to focus on, since drag-drop track reordering via touch would also be ideal. Or is it implemented there are already... ?

Anyway, still +1 for a desktop solution.

McIrish wrote:Drag and drop reordering seems like such a basic function (coming from the DAW world).

I say this earnestly:

I wish the Resolve developers would spend a few weeks with Reaper to get some workflow ideas.

bellerandre wrote:

McIrish wrote:Drag and drop reordering seems like such a basic function (coming from the DAW world).

I say this earnestly:

I wish the Resolve developers would spend a few weeks with Reaper to get some workflow ideas.

Yes, same!

Resolve's slow, clunky, and unintuitive user interface often detracts from the amazing features that it has to offer. BMD would do very well to check out the free Reaper demo (fully functional and never expires) for a while as Reaper has blazed a massive path for workflow and customization. I'd love for Resolve to follow down this path too.

Agree Reaper is great with that.

But simple track move should really be possible in Resolve regardless.

I can only see upsides to adding in this functionality

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Michel Rabe wrote:Agree Reaper is great with that.

But simple track move should really be possible in Resolve regardless.

Absolutely. Lots of editors can drag and drop tracks, not just Reaper, but if BMD is looking for workflow inspiration they might as well look to the best. My former DAW Samplitude and my former video NLE Vegas Pro also had drag and drop for tracks... as well as multiple track selection, track Mute/Solo buttons, Folder Tracks, etc. it's a shame Resolve doesn't have these standard features yet, but hopefully it will soon.

Thanks this was a huge help. I'm organizing 200 tracks and they were entered somewhat randomly. This trick using the index (Mac version 18.6.2) has really helped.

If you are working on a massive number of tracks, the only practical way to do it is to use the Fairlight page. On the edit page, when you want to move the timeline indicator and edit a track you have selected, the interface jumps back to the first track. I wasted a lot of time on the edit page trying to do things better done on the Fairlight page.

Keith

Don't fully get the question. This is possible with single clicks/kbd shortcuts for both CLIPS and/or entire TRACKS

1) CLIPS:
This is a one click keyboard shortcut?
If it is clips you want to move click on the clip you want to move, and use keyboard ALT+[UP] or Alt+[DOWN]. It moves up and down without any sideways movement which is always the dilemma when trying this with the mouse alone.
Still in doubt? See solution here: youtu.be/ktix_UewRJM
(for some reason not allowed to paste links)

2) TRACKS:
If you want to move around entire tracks just do it in the little track arranger window where you can drag tracks up and down and release it between two other tracks as you see fit.
In the top left corner of the EDIT pane click on INDEX and in the bottom you have three choices "Edit Index", "Tracks" and "Markers" (guess which one shows a miniature representation of how all your tracks are arranged in the timeline?) When dragging a track up or down in that lilttle "track-map" you will see your corresponding tracks in the timeline switch places too. VOILA!
Still in doubt? See solution here: youtu.be/7DC6r9m-Vzg

How would anyone even think that BMD would put a software like resolve on the market without adding this banal functionality before release?

beninu wrote:How would anyone even think that BMD would put a software like resolve on the market without adding this banal functionality before release?

Because...they did. Check the date of the first post in this thread. And the date of the video you linked to.