DR19 Speed editor update ?

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DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSun Apr 14, 2024 10:13 am

Hey everyone,

When I installed the studio public beta, the speed editor message came for an update.
I did the update without any problem
But does anyone know what changed in the SE for DR19 ?

I can't find any messages about that. (I hope more usage tools for the edit page)

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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSun Apr 14, 2024 10:53 am

No additional tools but better support for some newer computers Bluetooth connectivity
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSun Apr 21, 2024 9:13 am

I also did the update of the Speed Editor firmware without any issues. But since then, it doesn't work at all. Whether I connect it via USB-C or via BlueTooth, Resolve doesn't accept any inputs from the Speed Editor, and the LEDs on the device stay ark.
The Control Panels app recognizes it if connected with USB-C, though.

Any suggestions how to get the Speed Editor working again?
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostTue Apr 23, 2024 10:40 am

Hi all,

Spartacus wrote:I also did the update of the Speed Editor firmware without any issues. But since then, it doesn't work at all. Whether I connect it via USB-C or via BlueTooth, Resolve doesn't accept any inputs from the Speed Editor, and the LEDs on the device stay ark.
The Control Panels app recognizes it if connected with USB-C, though.

Any suggestions how to get the Speed Editor working again?


Same here, exactly as Spartacus wrote. Speed Editor is recognized in Windows and Control Panel,
But no LED activity and no response inside Davinci Resolve :(
Thank you for suggestions!

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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostFri May 03, 2024 4:32 am

I just ran the Speed Editor update. Used it in v19 beta 1. Like always, the bluetooth will not connect reliably on my Windows systems (neither desktop or laptop). Still works with the USB cable. beta 2 is downloading right now.

What I find ironic is this is the first piece of BMD hardware for many people. Instead of making something that perform as flawlessly as possible to impress people with their hardware, they give you what feels like a kludged together product that has problems that never get fixed.

And this is supposed to make people more interested in the other hardware how?
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostFri May 03, 2024 7:19 am

Sam Walker wrote:they give you what feels like a kludged together product that has problems that never get fixed.


If you are familiar with Windows bluetooth stack or drivers you probably know getting it to work flawlessly is close to impossible.

Instead of just complaining why not provide details about your computer, BT chip/driver etc. you know relevant info that might help devs to fix problems? Or maybe you have I don't know.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 04, 2024 9:28 am

Hi everyone. I'm in the same boat, installed DR19B2 (skipped B1) and it came with firmware 1.5 (build Build 737b6186) for the speed editor. It worked after the update, but after a few minutes of fiddling around in Resolve, it stopped working. It doesn't seem to be a hardware/firmware issue, because the DaVinci Control Panel Setup doesn't load anymore, I think it just crashes and can't interface with the Speed Editor.
Everything works again after restarting Resolve. So, it's a bit of a hassle, but I thin it can be managed with an update to the DR Control Panel. At least I hope. I run my Speed Editor via USB-C.
I was worried something got borked in the firmware update, but I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having this problem... I mean, glad that it's not broken, not that you're having problems too :D .
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 04, 2024 9:38 am

I've not had any problems with updating the Speed Editor to version 1.5 in Resolve 19.0b2. I do have it connected by cable as the Bluetooth connection is flaky on my computer.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 04, 2024 10:52 am

While it seems to work here, I have the experience over the years that BT is generally unreliable, not only with SE. Both under Windows and MacOS. I keep it connected by cable and it simply works.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 04, 2024 12:28 pm

I have my SE connected by USB C to the PC and Bluetooth to the Studio Max. Did the PC update to 19 first and updated firmware then. Updated the Studio Max and the SE just worked fine. I leave them connected this way but of course only have one open at the same time. In the past I have had to remove all pairing to get SE to work on PC and Mac. Of course if I want to use the SE with the iPad I have to make sure the Studio Max is powered OFF.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 04, 2024 9:28 pm

I must have gotten lucky as the speed editor works very reliably via Bluetooth on both my laptop and studio computers. They are both a couple of years old though. It would be great if BMD could tell us which Bluetooth version/hardware it became unreliable on. That way those having problems could probably solve them with a cheap Bluetooth dongle.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 04, 2024 10:34 pm

Is there anyway to do a J or L cut with the Speed Editor?
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostFri May 24, 2024 2:53 pm

I now did the installation of DR 19b3 (studio), and on the first startup, I also updated my Speed Editor to its new firmware version.
Again without any error messages.
But after a restart of DR, the Speed Editor (connected via USB-C) still does not work.
Currently it's just a rechargable brick...
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostFri May 24, 2024 5:58 pm

The first SE update in the beta went fine for me. No problems at all.
In B3 I also had connection problems.

Updated. un-paired. tried to re-pair and couldn't make a connection.
Rebooted.
Still can't connect.
Plugged the SE into another machine's USB (because I'm editing from another room) and as expected SE doesn't appear in the BT available device list. Unplugged and tried to re-pair and it went through without a hitch.

I don't know what kind of BT reset (if any) the SE goes through when USB is disconnected but maybe this sequence will help others on this thread.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostFri May 24, 2024 7:44 pm

Speed Editor Trivia:

The Bluetooth is only active if the USB port is not connected.

The Bluetooth is only active with a sufficient battery charge. You can check the battery charge status by connecting a USB cable and opening the DaVinci Control Panels app.

The DaVinci Control Panels app will only see the Speed Editor when it is USB connected. It does not work over Bluetooth.

You can reset the Speed Editor by pressing and holding the CUT and SMTH CUT keys simultaneously for 3 seconds. If you watch closely, you should see all the switch LEDs flash very briefly and dimly when you release the 2 keys. If you see this, then the Speed Editor did reset.

If you are having trouble pairing or connecting to the Speed Editor from your computer/iPad, try resetting the Speed Editor.

Based on this thread, I've been testing Speed Editor Bluetooth connectivity on Mac and Windows, with Resolve 18.6.6, 19b1, 19b2 and 19b3. All 4 versions work over Bluetooth with Windows and Mac.

The Speed Editor firmware version changes from 18.6.6 to 19b1. Stays the same from 19b1 to 19b2. Then changes from 19b2 to 19b3.

Any of those firmware versions work, over Bluetooth or USB, with any of the Resolve versions. But, if you have a mismatch between the firmware and the Resolve version, it will warn you that the Speed Editor needs a firmware upgrade. You can ignore the warning and the Speed Editor still works.

One more issue I ran across when doing this test. I initially couldn't get the Speed Editor to connect over Bluetooth on Mac or Windows. If I reset the Speed Editor, it would briefly appear in the Bluetooth connections list, then go away. I finally tracked this down to the Speed Editor being paired and connected to an iPad sitting in the corner of the office. Once I disconnected from that, it all worked as expected. All of which is to say: If you are getting weird Bluetooth behavior, make sure the Speed Editor isn't connected to some other device in your facility.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 25, 2024 3:08 pm

I went back to DR18 and I also have problems after the SE updated.
Leds going out and the SE stops working.
Is there a way to do a factory reset ?
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSat May 25, 2024 3:37 pm

Connect the SE through USB and open the Help | davinci panels menu

You should be given the option to factory reset from there.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostSun May 26, 2024 12:30 pm

To add to what Dwaine says. I use my Speed Editor on iPad, PC and Studio Max. Most of the time it is used to edit on the Studio Max with BT but is connected to PC by USB ( but PC is OFF so just charging). If I turn off the Studio Max I can edit on the PC but if I want to edit on the iPad I have to make sure I unpair from Studio Max and repair on iPad etc. I have just accepted this but maybe try the reset next time.But for me the Speed Editor can only pair with one unit and needs to be reset to connect to another every time. Not a problem but something to be aware of as the first time I tried with my iPad it took a while to figure things out.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostMon May 27, 2024 8:52 am

Just to add to this...

MY BT woes went away after I bought a BT USB dongle, and turned off BT on the mobo.
This also because Windows only supports one BT entry in the system.

After that I had no issues with BT and the SE. I moved the dongle to the next machine I build, and concluded from this that BT on a mobo just doesn't work properly.

Ah... The BT dongle is plugged into my (das)keyboard, so the SE is relatively close to the dongle as well.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostMon May 27, 2024 12:27 pm

Most PC towers need an antenna for the BT to work properly. Mine plugs into two little gold connectors and has about a meter of cable to the antenna. So I have this antenna up on my desk close to the Speed Editor. Studio Max has a good internal antenna but it too is close. Because of the way the Speed Editor works with pairing I use USB from PC and BT for the Studio Max. I can switch between them no problems.

I do share a Logi keyboard and mouse between the PC and Studio Max that uses the BT connection with selection on the mouse and keyboard though.
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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostMon May 27, 2024 1:43 pm

Me too, and I really wish the SE offered such a solution.
Now that the cat #19 is out of the bag, test it as much as you can and use the subforum.

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Re: DR19 Speed editor update ?

PostTue May 28, 2024 12:23 pm

Peter Chamberlain wrote:No additional tools but better support for some newer computers Bluetooth connectivity

Comes and goes in my add device window on my desktop, so cannot be connected. Same old story. :roll: Motherboard has BT 5.2 Other Bluetooth devices, even in an adjacent room, connect with no problem. Can't believe this is STILL an issue with this keyboard.

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